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DA was not that good. I would put KotOR way above DA. BG >>> DA
KOTOR holds a bad place in my memory as where Bioware started designing things backwards.

In the old school RPGs, you would take your character out and seek various things in the environment that you could change. You have agency, you have freedom. You have to take an active role if you want to change the world, save the princess, or just find a way to survive.

In KOTOR, it feels like you may as well be standing still. You play an assembly line worker who has to make a certain quota of Force-related crises before he can finish his shift. The only things that happen are thing things that were scripted to happen. Your role is prescribed. You are Revan, and you can't be anyone else. You couldn't make your own story or forge your own path, you couldn't even try to follow two branches of the story simultaneously; there were no forks in the road. You just choose whether or not you want the people around you to sing about lollipops and rainbows, or about moping and self-cutting.

This sort of treadmill feeling got even worse in Mass Effect, where actually interacting with the game felt like waiting ten minutes to download the next page of a comic book.

DA:O felt like an inexplicable reversal of the removal of freedoms you saw in KOTOR. And no more of the lame dialog wheel! Things were looking up! Maybe the next Bioware title would have both an enjoyable story and gameplay that didn't feel stifling!
    
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NEW Franchise... Jeez... PEOPLE.
We know, were just kidding around and saying what it looks like. Relax man. By the way just looking at your signature, can i ask were you popular when you were at school?
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Looks like another borderlands rip off.
I thought Borderlands as well when I saw the screen shot.

I am a huge Bioware fan tho, hopefully it doesn't suck.

~S
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KOTOR holds a bad place in my memory as where Bioware started designing things backwards.

In the old school RPGs, you would take your character out and seek various things in the environment that you could change. You have agency, you have freedom. You have to take an active role if you want to change the world, save the princess, or just find a way to survive.

In KOTOR, it feels like you may as well be standing still. You play an assembly line worker who has to make a certain quota of Force-related crises before he can finish his shift. The only things that happen are thing things that were scripted to happen. Your role is prescribed. You are Revan, and you can't be anyone else. You couldn't make your own story or forge your own path, you couldn't even try to follow two branches of the story simultaneously; there were no forks in the road. You just choose whether or not you want the people around you to sing about lollipops and rainbows, or about moping and self-cutting.

This sort of treadmill feeling got even worse in Mass Effect, where actually interacting with the game felt like waiting ten minutes to download the next page of a comic book.

DA:O felt like an inexplicable reversal of the removal of freedoms you saw in KOTOR. And no more of the lame dialog wheel! Things were looking up! Maybe the next Bioware title would have both an enjoyable story and gameplay that didn't feel stifling!
I need to rerank since I was combining DA with DA2. DA >> KotOR1 > ME> KotOR2 > ME2 > DA2
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Carmegeddon 2020: Don't Drive Angry digital extreme edition.
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A take on an Indiana Jones/Uncharted type franchise?
 
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Dragon age was an awesome game and I could see why someone would choose it for best Rpg. A lot of people get rose tinted glasses when looking back on older games. I certainly wouldn't feel bad for him just because dragon age is his favorite rpg
The best RPG he's ever played though? DA:O was obviously Bioware's side project. It could have been a lot better. Again, it's not even Bioware's best RPG, let alone the best RPG of all time.
    
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Could it be *gasp* a new I.P.!
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