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I was thinking about a build with the A6 3650+HD 6850 or the Phenom II x4 965 and the HD6850.

The A6 PassMark is higher that the 965. (5207 vs 4291) And the over clock of the A6 is great as well.

The only reason for this is for gaming and it is more for curiosity than anything else and cost. The A6 is only $10.00 cheaper but newer tech.

I don't want to compare it with a Intel set up just the two above.

Your thoughts please.
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I don't think the A6 has the OC potential of the x4s. And even if the chip can OC well good luck finding an FM1 board that is built for OCing. Also the fact that is has the GPU on the same chip means more TDP which results in more heat. The phenom IIs always do poorly in benchmarks when stock because they are are under clocked from the factory. by under clocked I mean clocked significantly lower than what they are capable of.
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Depends on what the builds purpose is. The 965 has a 800mhz clock speed advantage right out of the gate, and will certainly overclock higher. And if your getting an 6850, the integrated GPU is rendered just wasted die space.
On the other hand, the Llano is 32nm, and the power consumption is much lower the the Phenom. Looking to the future, FM1 socket looks to get Trinity next year, which is tempting.
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post #4 of 12
Why the full apu? Get the athlon ii x4 631 - its the a6 with disabled gpu core and is cheaper than the 965 and 3650, way cheaper
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If the 965 is better, why then the higher PassMark with the A6?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by xd_1771;15621524 
Why the full apu? Get the athlon ii x4 631 - its the a6 with disabled gpu core and is cheaper than the 965 and 3650, way cheaper

Well, idk about WAY cheaper. The price difference on newegg is $20. ($90 v. $110)

But if your not using the GPU anyways, thats money in your pocket!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Knika;15621714 
If the 965 is better, why then the higher PassMark with the A6?

Do you have a link to that benchmark?

I know its not apples to apples. But the 3850 (300mhz faster than the 3650) loses to the 975 (100mhz faster than the 965) in every benchmark.

http://techreport.com/articles.x/21208/1
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post #9 of 12
Quote:
Originally Posted by Knika;15622037 
Here: http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html

Idk about that chart. It also has the 3650 beating the Intel 920, and is just behind the 1075T.
Not saying it isnt possible, but it may not be the best example of real world performance.

Take a look at that tech report article i posted for some extended benchmarking. The 3650 will be about 5-10% slower than the 3850

Edit: and i dont really know to much about passmark.
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post #10 of 12
Really? I could've sworn seeing it at $80 just recently. Either way, if you're not going to use the GPU portion of the 3650 then why spend on the GPU cores?
Someone recently took a 3650 (CPU only, GPU disabled) to 4.1GHz.
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