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correct me If I'm wrong, but I thought cold fusion was physically impossible?
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Originally Posted by chaosblade02 View Post
It could be fake, and it could be real, but the idea that international patent offices refuse patents for cold fusion devices is rather strange. That means in order to prove it functions, he has to risk getting his design stolen and patented by someone else should it prove to be true.

Now suppose for a second that this device is real, and also suppose it could possibly be affordable where people could easily supply power to their house, off the grid, and for cheaper than the power companies sell them power?

A cold fusion reactor would be a direct threat to many current industries who have a whole lot of money and power, and they would have motive to do anything they could to keep the lid on something like this.

Cold fusion would immediately make hydroelectric, coal power, nuclear power, natural gas power, fossil fuels, solar power, wind power, all forms of green power, all obsolete. Any industries involved in any of the above would be getting put out of business by cold fusion.

I'm not arguing whether Cold Fusion is real or attainable or not, just that there is plenty of motivation, by plenty of very rich and powerful people and corporations to keep the lid on such a revolutionary technology.

Imagine if you could power your house for a year on a 5 dollar bar of nickel, and a $20 tank of hydrogen, completely off the grid? If you could power a house, you could also have a cold fusion engine driving your car that emits 0 emissions, and very rarely needs refueling.
This over and over. Hey u guys remeber in 2005 or so the WATER POWERED ENGINE?

Ya, 6 years + and not a word of that tech has come about.... strange, i wonder what happened?

water powered car video in case u dont remember, i sure do.

EDIT: And yes, i do realize that this is a horrible idea to turn our most needed resource water, into fuel for cars, but still....
Edited by Chachi123 - 11/8/11 at 5:16pm
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Originally Posted by Juliancahillane View Post
this is really , really old news. But still very much alive!
This is new news. This device has been reported on before, but this was a new test and the article is only a few days old.
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we had a working Water-Fuel-Cell in the Mid 1980's. Most of this tech goes MIA, people mysteriously die, and patents get bought up / vanish. Corporate GREED is not a conspiracy theory.

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we had a working Water-Fuel-Cell in the Mid 1980's. Most of this tech goes MIA, people mysteriously die, and patents get bought up / vanish. Corporate GREED is not a conspiracy theory.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOGAkRkCWfA
If this were feasible, hobbyists would have been running water-fuel-cell cars the past two decades.
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its pretty simple, instead of stopping to fill a tank with hydrogen, the hydrogen is produced on-the-fly, by electrolysis. it is very feasible, but will BIG OIL allow it? if somebody pays a few billion to bail your car manufacturing company out of bankruptcy, what kind of cars are you going to build? the cars they tell you to build.
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The experiments in the eighties weren't fake.


Non-repeatable experiments can be dismissed as hogwash, which is what those were.
    
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its pretty simple, instead of stopping to fill a tank with hydrogen, the hydrogen is produced on-the-fly, by electrolysis. it is very feasible, but will BIG OIL allow it? if somebody pays a few billion to bail your car manufacturing company out of bankruptcy, what kind of cars are you going to build? the cars they tell you to build.
Alright, so what's stopping you from building such a vehicle in your garage? Or anyone else for that matter? They gonna get you? Is that it?

Information of that caliber would not be suppressible, unless the very substrate of the universe was compromised by your evil corporations.
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Alright, so what's stopping you from building such a vehicle in your garage? Or anyone else for that matter? They gonna get you? Is that it?

Information of that caliber would not be suppressible, unless the very substrate of the universe was compromised by your evil corporations.
apparently you didn't watch the video of this hobbyist.
there are a select few who have the know-how to build their own water fuel cell, which is pretty much the main component. even in that video the guy claims it is his own "patented electrolysis system" people who have built such a thing will not freely part with the information, I did not say "evil corporations". I said "corporate greed" you are twisting my words. It doesn't take a genius to see the patent war going, its not just tablets and cell phones, patent wars have been happening for 150+ years.
Edited by HK_47 - 11/8/11 at 6:59pm
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its pretty simple, instead of stopping to fill a tank with hydrogen, the hydrogen is produced on-the-fly, by electrolysis. it is very feasible, but will BIG OIL allow it? if somebody pays a few billion to bail your car manufacturing company out of bankruptcy, what kind of cars are you going to build? the cars they tell you to build.
It's actually not pretty simple. The issue is producing enough hydrogen on-the-fly to actually power a car. Also, electrolysis doesn't just happen. You need an external power source, and it's not a very efficient process. This is why with our current hydrogen extraction methods this isn't feasible. However, there are a number of universities that are working on viable chemical reaction methods of extracting hydrogen from water on-the-fly in a vehicle. Hopefully they will find a commercially viable method, but until then it's just a pipe dream.

I remember reading somewhere that this "scientist" has a pretty sketchy past when it comes to "world changing" discoveries like this one. Cold fusion really has a demonized past, and there are many scientists who question the possibility of it. I really do hope that this machine really works, but my skepticism meter just blew out from overexposure.
Edited by AtomicFrost - 11/8/11 at 7:02pm
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