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Um just needing a sound card for a 5.1 stereo setup and was wondering what GX was
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Because said audio companies want to sell their products and have EVERY interest in making people do so?
This why there is no real review based upon subjectivity.
It cannot happen, and any stats submitted from either the company themselves or a site like Headfi...which accepts samples...is inherently compromised.

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I understand the point of marketing, and to me, its more of a marketing gimick to sell stereo headphones as surround ones because of software emulation.

I have four different setups, and a real surround home theater is best for obvious reasons, then the surround headphones, then the emulated surround headphones, then just normal stereo headphones.
In terms of directional placement and nothing else, which is what the OP seems to want. If they are purely for competitive gaming, I could care less about sound quality and will go with "function over form" any day. Real surround sound headsets do not sound bad at all, they just dont sound amazing either.
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And aside from people just say "algorithms algorithms algorithms" ,and I'm in engineering i know a bit about algorithms, there hasn't been much proof or reasoning behind why 2 drivers is better for surround sound then 6 or 8. but i say AGAIN! I dont know and will have to think more about it.

Really? It's been mentioned before in this thread. The human ears use the difference in time it takes for a sound to reach each ear and how loud it is in each to estimate where it came from. This has been said before just in this thread. And again, lots of people have said that the drivers in a surround headset are too close to the ear/each other. So far, there's lots of reasoning.
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Come on guys this is not the thread to argue Marketing and surround sound gimmicks. OP just wants a nice set of headphones.

The HD201 are worth a buy for $15. It would be worth your time to just try these out and if you don't like them for gaming use them for music or sell them.

For a sound card I like the X-Fi cards for gaming. I am using an Auzentech X-fi Forte and it is wonderful.
Most people are recommending the Titanium HD by creative. It is a bit pricey on Newegg though frown.gif
I think the regular Titanium card is pretty good,
Or the X-fi gamer?

What do you have now? Some onboard can work pretty good. Also instead of a sound card you could look at getting an Amp to drive the headphones.
Something like this "http://www.amazon.com/FiiO-E6-Headphone-Amplifier-Micca/dp/B005JT8OT6/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1321363199&sr=1-4"

If you have an amp and onboard audio supports Dolby Surround/Live you don't necessarily need a super high end sound card for gaming.
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Really? It's been mentioned before in this thread. The human ears use the difference in time it takes for a sound to reach each ear and how loud it is in each to estimate where it came from. This has been said before just in this thread. And again, lots of people have said that the drivers in a surround headset are too close to the ear/each other. So far, there's lots of reasoning.

So let me make sure I understand.
1-A sound occurs
2-the sound wave is picked up by one ear
3-then picked up by the other
4-then essentially analyzing the difference in sound and time and etc. my mind tells me how far away something is?

IF this is correct ... ... ... ... ... Then how would the closeness of the drivers sending sound to one ear make any difference? A 2 driver headset would be similar to one with 10/20/1000 drivers that were infinetly close to each other. So from my logic that argument/"proof" is flawed

IF my understanding is wrong please explain another way cause it obviously went over my head.
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Come on guys this is not the thread to argue Marketing and surround sound gimmicks. OP just wants a nice set of headphones.
The HD201 are worth a buy for $15. It would be worth your time to just try these out and if you don't like them for gaming use them for music or sell them.
For a sound card I like the X-Fi cards for gaming. I am using an Auzentech X-fi Forte and it is wonderful.
Most people are recommending the Titanium HD by creative. It is a bit pricey on Newegg though frown.gif
I think the regular Titanium card is pretty good,
Or the X-fi gamer?
What do you have now? Some onboard can work pretty good. Also instead of a sound card you could look at getting an Amp to drive the headphones.
Something like this "http://www.amazon.com/FiiO-E6-Headphone-Amplifier-Micca/dp/B005JT8OT6/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1321363199&sr=1-4"
If you have an amp and onboard audio supports Dolby Surround/Live you don't necessarily need a super high end sound card for gaming.

I did by the EDITheadphones* if for nothing else listening to my Ipod and other music/movie sources
My on board Audio Chip set is the Realtek ALC662


*From headset.
Edited by remnant - 11/15/11 at 7:34am
     
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So let me make sure I understand.
1-A sound occurs
2-the sound wave is picked up by one ear
3-then picked up by the other
4-then essentially analyzing the difference in sound and time and etc. my mind tells me how far away something is?


The problem with multiple drivers in one tiny ear cup is that unless you can individually adjust each driver on the hardware side, not program, they can misinterpret the appropriate volume levels and give your ear less than accurate sound ques. Your probably still going to be able to tell it came from the side just not where at the side. This is where proper fitment over the ear is important because if the drivers sits too close to your ear the sound stage will be small because you are hearing the sound too close to your ear. 2 driver phones only have to adjust volume levels to simulate the sound stage.

This is why I picked my HPA2's because I can adjust each driver on a hardware level, they have a dial on the cord, to correct the volume levels. The placement is very important to get the correct volume levels in combination of sound direction to accurately represent the sound stage, que, and location.

When you get your headphones use this to configure your phones.
Virtual Haircut - full surround sound demo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUDTlvagjJ

Your onboard supports Dolby Live which you can use with headphones to create really nice surround sound with 2 driver phones. Not sure what cable you need though, I think you might need to use the SPDIF connector, an audio guy might know off hand what you need to get Dolby working for your phones.
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I could see that being an issue... According to Tritton the pair Im looking at can adjust each individually.
     
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Yes, you can adjust the volume to front/center/sides/sub individually with the Trittons.


Also, if you are still picking up a stereo set, BB and Amazon have the HD202 IIs for $20, instead of $15 for the 201s.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Sennheiser+-+Over-the-Ear+Headphones/1700531.p?skuId=1700531&id=1218285361001
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