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My antique system:

Q6600 @ 3.2Ghz
8GB DDR2 RAM
EVGA 780i
2x500GB WD Greens RAID 0
8800GT 1Gb
850W PSU
Dell U2711


I've got $500, give or take some, to upgrade my PC.

My own thoughts:

Hard Drives:
Too expensive at the moment given recent flooding in Thailand so I'm going to give it a pass.

SSD:
Still too expensive for my tastes, despite the gains in performance.

Upgrade to 1155:
Not worth it given my budget. $500 would only get me CPU, Motherboard, RAM. I'd go for this if my budget was double what it actually is.

Graphics:
As an avid gamer in my free time, I'd like to get something along the lines of 2x560TI in SLI. In addition, with 1 8800GT, I can only run the U2711, and I have two 22" monitors sitting around doing nothing. So a multi GPU setup would suit me IMO. I'm leaning towards this option the most. Because of my motherboard, I need to get Nvidia cards.

I'm looking to get this upgrade in perhaps 2 weeks.

Thoughts? Opinions? Suggestions? Warnings? All comment will be greatly appreciated smile.gif
    
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I would say that the graphic card is it need of replacement, Go for a 560ti as you say and then cpu/mobo(I think you're asking too much of a q6600 for its bottleneck) then sli.
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Depending on when you want to upgrade in the future, I might suggest a single powerful gpu and then alternating to an SLI with that in the future.
That way you know you're not going to have to get rid of the SLI in favour for even more power any time soon. thumb.gif
Because i'm english i'm not entirely sure how far $500 can get you, just a 570/580 you can hardly go wrong. biggrin.gif
    
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I would actually suggest SLI 470's as the Vram will help (1.25 vs 1GB, especially if you're running 2560 x 1400 with any AA), and 470's tend to be a bit quicker, cheaper, and overclock very well - you can score two of them for ~ $400 (or less) and grab a 64GB SSD for a boot drive (WD Greens in Raid0 is a good storage, terrible performance as they are 5400rpm drives).

Also to the above, your CPU isn't going to bottleneck 560ti's, I have a Q6600 @ 3.4ghz and it allows two 4870X2's to run at 99% usage, Quadfire is significantly tougher on a system than SLI / CF. Q6600's are strong CPUs!

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i hear people say, "Get a single powerful card instead of sli/xfire two smaller so that you can sli/xfire the bigger card later."

this doesn't make any sense to me. here is why:
really long... (Click to show)
there are two graphics options you can upgrade to: 2x gtx560 ti, or 1x gtx580, with intent to sli at some point.

well, in a year or so, you might have saved up some more cash, and want to upgrade mobo/cpu/ram. so you do that.

then, a few months later, you'll think, "wow, ssd prices have really dropped. guess i'll make the switch." so you do that.

now, two years has rolled around, and you are again looking for more graphics performance.

if you have the gtx 560 ti's, you pretty much have to completely replace your cards. if you had 580, you could add a second one.

but, the 580 architecture will likely be so outdated that while adding a second one would increase performance,it would be
like sli'ing your 8800 now...kinda pointless. you'd be better just getting whatever newer gen cards are out, whether you have 2 small cards or one big.

basically, i find that if you don't sli your cards within one or two paychecks of each other, it won't ever happen.

plus, the 560 ti's would perform better than the 580.

SOOO, if you are going to upgrade your gpu's, go with a pair of 560 ti's in that price range. also, you might consider going slightly overbudget with them and getting 2gb versions. would probably run you around $560 for a pair instead of $480 for the 1GB versions, and well worth the money, imo, for longevity concerns.

so anyway, now that that is cleared up--WAIT A SECOND, you think you cant get a good cpu/mobo/ram combo for $500??? WELL, check this out: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
from newegg,

2500k = $215

Gigabyte SLI Mobo = $135

Corsair 8GB DDR3 1600 = $40

Free shipping, so total is $390!!!! so actually, with $500, you could even get the 2600k!!!

psh...can't upgrade for $500.....lachen.gif
so now, anyway, you have those two to choose between. life presents tough choices sometimes, and this is one of them.
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You just need a better GPU. Go for a 560TI. Great card.
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Depending on when you want to upgrade in the future, I might suggest a single powerful gpu and then alternating to an SLI with that in the future.
That way you know you're not going to have to get rid of the SLI in favour for even more power any time soon. thumb.gif
Because i'm english i'm not entirely sure how far $500 can get you, just a 570/580 you can hardly go wrong. biggrin.gif

Future will (without doubt) involve SSDs + HDD upgrades. Too pricey for my tastes atm to do it now.
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I would actually suggest SLI 470's as the Vram will help (1.25 vs 1GB, especially if you're running 2560 x 1400 with any AA), and 470's tend to be a bit quicker, cheaper, and overclock very well - you can score two of them for ~ $400 (or less) and grab a 64GB SSD for a boot drive (WD Greens in Raid0 is a good storage, terrible performance as they are 5400rpm drives).
Also to the above, your CPU isn't going to bottleneck 560ti's, I have a Q6600 @ 3.4ghz and it allows two 4870X2's to run at 99% usage, Quadfire is significantly tougher on a system than SLI / CF. Q6600's are strong CPUs!

Interesting suggestion, but as I live in Australia, it is an absolute PITA to source 2nd hand gear. If this source is anything to go by, 2 GTX 470s are still kicking, but I'd imagine are very hot.
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i hear people say, "Get a single powerful card instead of sli/xfire two smaller so that you can sli/xfire the bigger card later."
this doesn't make any sense to me. here is why: really long... (Click to show)
there are two graphics options you can upgrade to: 2x gtx560 ti, or 1x gtx580, with intent to sli at some point.
well, in a year or so, you might have saved up some more cash, and want to upgrade mobo/cpu/ram. so you do that.
then, a few months later, you'll think, "wow, ssd prices have really dropped. guess i'll make the switch." so you do that.
now, two years has rolled around, and you are again looking for more graphics performance.
if you have the gtx 560 ti's, you pretty much have to completely replace your cards. if you had 580, you could add a second one.
but, the 580 architecture will likely be so outdated that while adding a second one would increase performance,it would be
like sli'ing your 8800 now...kinda pointless. you'd be better just getting whatever newer gen cards are out, whether you have 2 small cards or one big.
basically, i find that if you don't sli your cards within one or two paychecks of each other, it won't ever happen.
plus, the 560 ti's would perform better than the 580.
SOOO, if you are going to upgrade your gpu's, go with a pair of 560 ti's in that price range. also, you might consider going slightly overbudget with them and getting 2gb versions. would probably run you around $560 for a pair instead of $480 for the 1GB versions, and well worth the money, imo, for longevity concerns.
so anyway, now that that is cleared up--WAIT A SECOND, you think you cant get a good cpu/mobo/ram combo for $500??? WELL, check this out: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
from newegg,
2500k = $215
Gigabyte SLI Mobo = $135
Corsair 8GB DDR3 1600 = $40
Free shipping, so total is $390!!!! so actually, with $500, you could even get the 2600k!!!
psh...can't upgrade for $500.....lachen.gif
so now, anyway, you have those two to choose between. life presents tough choices sometimes, and this is one of them.

I never said I couldn't get 1155 for $500, I merely stated that for my budget, I did not deem it a worthy enough 'upgrade' for me. $400 gets me a mobo + CPU + RAM, for what I do, I would consider that a negligible upgrade. Of course, I am green with envy when I see people with their 2500K casually over 4Ghz. If I had double my budget, I would definitely go for a 1155 build.

However, I do agree with your previous point about SLI, that if I don't SLI at the same time, I'll end up never going SLI at all.

I'm thinking about two of these, I don't like reference cards because of their inefficient cooling, and my current card is also Gainward, and I have had no qualms whatsoever. For 2x2Gb versions, it's an extra $100, I'm not sure if that is worth it.

Also, any suggestions for what to do with my 8800GT? Use it for PhysX or try to sell it?
    
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I'm thinking about two of these, I don't like reference cards because of their inefficient cooling, and my current card is also Gainward, and I have had no qualms whatsoever. For 2x2Gb versions, it's an extra $100, I'm not sure if that is worth it.

never heard of gainward, but if they work, then by all means go with them, as they seem to be the least expensive.

as far as 1gb vs 2 gb: the memory on a card allows you to have increased rendering range, as well as details in each frame. essentially, the more memory you have, the more your card can render at once before dumping it onto your monitor. your framerates won't go up THAT much, but they will most certainly become smoother (less and smaller dips) especially at higher resolutions, and you will probably be able to turn up AA. given that AA is increasing with each game that comes out, it would be smart to be prepared with more memory, since you plan to keep the cards for several years.
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Also, any suggestions for what to do with my 8800GT? Use it for PhysX or try to sell it?

if your board can handle the third card, then use it for physx. dunno what the australian market is like, but ebay showed that new, in-box 8800 gt's were going for 60-70 USD and used ones were between 30 and 50 USD. You could probably sell it to a folder on here for $30...maybe.
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Heh, my board can handle it, but my PSU can't it seems. I only have enough on my PSU for 2 gfx cards.

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