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Originally Posted by Strat79 View Post

Depending on how much of those ~2.2 billion transistors is the GPU, this could be a huge gain in performance. Just look at what the current gen is doing with about half that number. This thing is pushing BD's number of transistors or more. If they are now outpacing BD with half the transistors, imagine what the same amount is going to be like.

Sandy Bridge E doesn't have an IGP.
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Sandy Bridge E doesn't have an IGP.



It is raw, unadulterated performance biggrin.gif:D
 
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Sandy Bridge E is a Native 8 core just like Westmere was a Native 6 core. They use one die and just disable cores to make different processors.
Makes me wonder if Ivy Bridge E will be a Native 10 core
555 Base price? So newegg should have them for 569.99?

IB-E a native core would be nuts!

I truly wanted an 8 core SB-E much more than a hex though.

NE should sell the 3930K for $589 is my guess.
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post #14 of 44
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Sandy Bridge E doesn't have an IGP.

Yeah, I just noticed in the picture and also reading the other benchmark thread about them. Wasn't aware of it. This thing should be even more a beast then.
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IB-E a native core would be nuts!
I truly wanted an 8 core SB-E much more than a hex though.
NE should sell the 3930K for $589 is my guess.

Same here 2010. 8 core is all I really want. Another 6 core isn't worth it to me
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Originally Posted by Don Karnage View Post

Sandy Bridge E is a Native 8 core just like Westmere was a Native 6 core. They use one die and just disable cores to make different processors.
Makes me wonder if Ivy Bridge E will be a Native 10 core
555 Base price? So newegg should have them for 569.99?

I certainly wouldn't be surprised. Based on some rough calculations which I can post later, a 22 nm Ivy Bridge-EP 8 Core die would be only be around 257 mm2. A ten core would be around 296 mm2, and a twelve core would be around 335 mm2. Even a sixteen core (though I don't believe the ring bus is designed to scale this high) would be 412 mm2, which is still less than Sandy Bridge-EP. I would guess that this is because the design has a vast amount of die space devoted to the quad channel memory controller and 40 lanes of on die PCI-Express 3.0.

This all assumes that Intel can achieve a similar core logic scaling factor to what they achieve from 45 to 32 nm with Nehalem/Westmere, ie around 0.77X (measured from die shots). I also assume that a Sandy Bridge core is 3.15 mm wide at 32nm. Input/Output logic won't scale as well as core logic, so the true die sizes would be slightly larger than what I estimated.
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Damn. Dat cache.
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So with those two disabled cores...will we see another model of the same CPU down the line with those two cores enabled? Sounds like something Intel would do to lengthen the profits they can get out of these CPUs. Release 6 core now at $550, couple months later, release 8 core when sales "dwindle" on the six core at $550. Unless I didn't read something, that may mean price drops in the future, but those are inevitable.
 
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That 3930K is looking good to me for the price! biggrin.gif
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post #20 of 44
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So with those two disabled cores...will we see another model of the same CPU down the line with those two cores enabled? Sounds like something Intel would do to lengthen the profits they can get out of these CPUs. Release 6 core now at $550, couple months later, release 8 core when sales "dwindle" on the six core at $550. Unless I didn't read something, that may mean price drops in the future, but those are inevitable.

Only as Xeons and priced starting at 1600 dollars
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