Originally Posted by dangill
Hey all - my name is Dan Gill; I'm the Co-founder and CEO over at Huddler. Our entire team has been watching the Overclock migration like hawks - it's the culmination of months of work from the OCN staff, the Migration Sherpa's and our team so I can assure you that we're paying attention. Having read this thread in its entirety as well as the similar multi-hundred post thread, I offered to chime-in with the hope that we can clarify Huddler's intentions on a few misunderstandings.
Hey, I don't have a problem with you making a buck. Really I don't. you run a business, I run a business. can't offer services without a revenue stream to fund them. No animosity on my part. My only primary beef is that I did not sign a new T.O.S. to reflect this nor was I informed or gave consent to have you use whatever data you may gather. That said, I hope you have a long and prosperous future as a business.
As far as the primary theme of this thread - site speed, the first step will be out before the end of this week and will continue to improve with every release. My co-founder/CTO Ted is on board the thread as well and can certainly keep up if folks want to get technical around architectural decisions and what's being done to improve speed.
bluntly, you need to rethink your entire strategy, keep replacing JS, with more proven performance oriented code until you can't anymore, then use JS for extra features that are impossible/insanely difficult to do otherwise. This may involve some cost on your end as I am fairly certain you have over invested in a JS based platform. Its not a problem I personally can't cope with from a hardware standpoint, its one I refuse to deal with as a user. there are plenty of competing sites with lower resource useage and more performance that offer the same content delivery as OCN.
So do yourself a favor, buy Vbulletin.
Where I may be able to help is clarifying our business model, and most specifically to start, the term "deep user profiling." To avoid any confusion, this statement is in reference to the existence of Rigbuilder and the "list" functionality we provide on the majority of Huddler communities, not marketing-speak for data mining and selling. For years on forums, users have demonstrated their cred by showcasing the gear that they have and are familiar with - on OCN this has been Rigs, on Howardforums they showed off their handsets and carriers, on home theater sites it's their HT equipment. The challenge is that this data is unstructured exactly as Chipp outlines in his post about tagging, free-text entry of this type of data leaves a lot to be desired.
I get it, integrating advertising with product and content delivery is profitable and lucrative, hey I don't begrudge you a thing. Just update the TOS and have everyone agree to it again, IF they choose to.
Part of our vision with Huddler is to provide access to a structured taxonomy to help users create rigs and collections in a way that they can be related to one another and to the best content on the site. We realize that this isn't for everyone, so we've tried to provide substantial controls for users to ignore/remove the display of elements that are not of interest so as not to disrupt the core forum experience. These lists are all that is meant by "deep user profiling" - users can create deeper profiles about themselves and the gear they use. We've had folks hate this term in the past - seems like high time to retire it from use.
As far as our broader business, I'm happy to answer questions. The company was founded out of a deep respect for the incredible knowledge and passion within discussion forums and there are 51 people and growing (30 in product/engineering) that care very deeply about helping to build the best communities online. We appreciate the feedback and are responding quickly. Thanks all.
Hey whatever floats your boat.