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my current build is a Pentium 4 650, asus p5q se plus board, 4 gig ddr 2 800 mhz (4x1gig), ASUS EN9600GSO/DI/512M, with a termitake orb s cooler for the card and a antec kuler 620 liquid cooler on the cpu with a 450 psu. here soon im geting some new parts from a buddy a nividia 260, 550w psu and a pentium d 945. my question is how much of a difference will i see in the cpu seeing as how there both 3.4 ghz stock and 800 fsb but going from hyper thread to a true dual core, and how high can i hope to oc the 945 with my board and cooler. right now i have my 650 p4 at 4.165 and have room to go higher with a avrg temp of 35-40c, 50 under 100% for 3-4 hours.
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post #2 of 26
You'll notice the dual core difference by a lot, depending on the application. The gtx 260 will get bottlenecked though.
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gameing mostly what will the 260 get bottlenecked
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post #4 of 26
Your CPU will bottleneck the 260.
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post #5 of 26
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would it be possible to help some if i oc'ed my pcie bus or would it be a futile effort
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post #6 of 26
Quote:
Originally Posted by shirouta183 View Post

would it be possible to help some if i oc'ed my pcie bus or would it be a futile effort

PCIe bus cannot be OC. PCIe maximum speed is defined by its version, and it cannot be increased.
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post #7 of 26
No even if you OC the CPU, it's gonna be bottlenecked no matter what.
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post #8 of 26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by trumpet-205 View Post

PCIe bus cannot be OC. PCIe maximum speed is defined by its version, and it cannot be increased.

my mobo has a option in the bios to turn up my pcie frequency
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post #9 of 26
You mean the speed? X4,x8,x16?
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post #10 of 26
Quote:
Originally Posted by shirouta183 View Post

my mobo has a option in the bios to turn up my pcie frequency

Except changing that number will make PCIe card un-usable.
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