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We need more graphs!!!! . Intel vs. AMD: lachen.gif

 

Graphs like these?


 

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Dont worry about that. I have good circuit breakers. .... and the last position is for Intel, haha...
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post #193 of 276

Oh I will, I think I'll move over to amdzone since it will be like coming home after posting here for so long.

 

 

Have you seen this one?

 

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It's a 4.7GHz x4 bulldozer going sad panda all over BF3 with 460 SLI.

 




If you want to argue (with your link) that bulldozer does good if you render files all day, then encode them, after which you zip them, that's fine we can discuss platform cost differences (need a expensive board to handle that power draw) and power consumption while ignoring everything else I guess.

 

    
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The funny part is that if you look through the bunch of random links and go through them, you will see BD losing in nearly every test to SB apart from one or two cases, and even then SB has near identical performance.

Do you seriously believe that an 8 core which can't keep up with a 4 core is impressive?

LL
Nice find. A fine example of real world performance.
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Have you seen this one?

have you seen THIS one ?

(i remember someone had said that he would take a 'reputable' site's benchmark rather than a random person's - it was you. and you have linked a random person's benchmark ?)

anyways. enjoy :

there isnt ANY difference in between intel 2600 and amd 8150 in these graphs.

http://hardocp.com/article/2011/10/11/amd_bulldozer_fx8150_gameplay_performance_review/6

there.

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your gaming performance. framerates. this that.
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Yet these benchmarks speaks against you thumb.gif
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The funny part is that if you look through the bunch of random links and go through them, you will see BD losing in nearly every test to SB apart from one or two cases, and even then SB has near identical performance.
Do you seriously believe that an 8 core which can't keep up with a 4 core is impressive?

explain the above graphs. or you are speaking from lala land.
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The above graphs show how good the GPUs are. The higher the resolution, the lower the stress on the CPU. Also [H] is on the AMD payroll so you expect them to be the ones selling BD.

As I said in my previous post. People will counter the lower resolution benches which show how a cpu bottlenecks with high resolution benches which show how good the gpus are. rolleyes.gif
 
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lol gpu bottleneck is gpu bottleneck.


Let's see what happens at around 60 fps, or playable frame rate levels..

 

 

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If bulldozer was a roller coaster, AMD would have a smash hit looking at those fps dips and peaks.

    
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The Dragon Age 2 bench is epic. 3 FPS minimum? biggrin.gif
 
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LoL..was a perfectly mature topic for about 2 hours. i really dont see why people cant respect a SINGLE post of ANY product on the market w/o just pure flames of sheer hatred flowing within a few hours of posting. Hey..you like one thing...other people like another..gasp!!! People have a choice...if they like one camp vs your camp do you have to troll EVERY SINGLE POST ever made that you dont like..no rolleyes.gif. I seriously dont get the sheer hatred of every single product that the fanboy didnt use. AMD/ATI makes good products...Intel and Nvidia make great products. They trade blows over the years and keep the competitive nature and performance on a roll.
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The funny part is that if you look through the bunch of random links and go through them, you will see BD losing in nearly every test to SB apart from one or two cases, and even then SB has near identical performance.
Do you seriously believe that an 8 core which can't keep up with a 4 core is impressive?
LL
Nice find. A fine example of real world performance.

again, balla,

you had had just told someone else that you would take a respectable site's benchmark than a random person's benchmark ss.

why have you gone to quote and recite a random person's benchmark screenshot to support your argument.

im waiting for your explanation.
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The above graphs show how good the GPUs are. The higher the resolution, the lower the stress on the CPU. Also [H] is on the AMD payroll so you expect them to be the ones selling BD.

that is your escape line ? 'how good the gpus are'.

the argument was whether or not being able to give 60 fps with xfire, trifire or 3 way sli with good cards. they told dozer would bottleneck these gpus.

i am repeating again :

they have told that dozer would bottleneck top line cards in xfire, trifire, sli conditions because it wouldnt be able to keep up with their power.

and whaddya know, IT DOES KEEP UP WITH THESE POWERFUL CARDS JUST AS WELL AS 2600 AND 2500 DOES.

and, 'hardocp on amd's payroll' ? is this like 'steffi loves auntie best' ?

what are you going to tell me if i tell you that a random another site where you link bad dozer benchmarks are on intel's payroll ? you will say that 'it isnt so !' ? what if i tell you 'yes it is' ?

will it be that kind of 12 year old talk ?
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