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Originally Posted by Allanon View Post

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Originally Posted by Don Karnage View Post

While words are nice post a screenshot to confirm

Sure thing.

Here you go...this $200 8120 is smoking. All this Faildozer talk is just a bunch of BS from haters.

Dollar for dollar, the $200 overclocked 8120 outperforms the $200 overclocked Intel i5...how is this a fail?

An overclocked 8120 is the fastest $200 chip around...and yes, those are i7's below it in the screenshot.

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Why do people use general terms for highly threaded applications, as if the 8120 didn't lose horribly in less threaded applications?

 

Btw, this i5-2500k says otherwise, and it was cheaper than the 8120 bike.gif

 

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The big difference?


Did it with 4 cores, instead of 8.

 

Did it while using 50% less power.

 

Did it while retaining per core performance for less threaded apps.

 

8120 being the fastest $200 cpu is comical at best.

 

    
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i'm butthurt..i have an awesome 990fx motherboard..and nothing good to put in it frown.gifsozo.gif

This^^
Even more sickening is that 1090fx is not far away....WHY!???!!??
990fx not working as intended?
This smacks a little of Intels SATA fail,except AMD aint replacing boards for free...oooh no.

so i still have my 990fx Sabertooth....
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Why do people use general terms for highly threaded applications, as if the 8120 didn't lose horribly in less threaded applications?

Btw, this i5-2500k says otherwise, and it was cheaper than the 8120 bike.gif

LL


The big difference?


Did it with 4 cores, instead of 8.

Did it while using 50% less power.

Did it while retaining per core performance for less threaded apps.

8120 being the fastest $200 cpu is comical at best.

I call BS on that screenshot.

How are you getting 8.4 with a 3.35 clock on an i5? Best I could ever get on my overclocked I5 was mid 7's.

Run your test again with the screenshot and prove it.
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Why do people use general terms for highly threaded applications, as if the 8120 didn't lose horribly in less threaded applications?

Btw, this i5-2500k says otherwise, and it was cheaper than the 8120 bike.gif

LL


The big difference?


Did it with 4 cores, instead of 8.

Did it while using 50% less power.

Did it while retaining per core performance for less threaded apps.

8120 being the fastest $200 cpu is comical at best.

The real question here is why do you still insist on posting in BD threads useless info or something that is totally off topic? Post your benches over in the Intel thread please, this is about BD, not intel.
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The real question here is why do you still insist on posting in BD threads useless info or something that is totally off topic? Post your benches over in the Intel thread please, this is about BD, not intel.


Having a hard time following the discussion?

 



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I call BS on that screenshot.

How are you getting 8.4 with a 3.35 clock on an i5? Best I could ever get on my overclocked I5 was mid 7's.

Run your test again with the screenshot and prove it.


Your powers of observation are underwhelming at best, it clearly shows it's close to 5.3GHz.

 

 

    
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The thing is, say for instance BD didn't have it's stupendous power consumption problem it does, but it had to run at 6Ghz to match Intels current offerings in everything, people would still be like "LOLZ butt it hav twyc da corz (or extra 2 corzz) FAIL", or "LULz butt it haz an extra 3Ghurtz ova SB to meat it FAIL"
What people won't realise in this situation, is that frequency means nothing for different architectures.
Just like SP count means nothing when comparing ATi/AMD Radeon to nVidia GeForce cards, yet within the same company it runs true.

Although to be fair, I've been comparing the 4100 to Phenom II X4, and wowing at the frequency to performance difference.

Then there are people posting benchmarks with unrealistic voltages and higher clockspeeds than which can't be run 24/7, comparing to chip's that will run 24/7.
If we wanted benchmarks, we'd look at Cinebench on a 8Ghz BD Chip, but most enthusiasts don't run LN2, and don't wanna kill their chip.
Uppermost OC's on Air, within reasonable voltages, stable for 24/7 usage is what I'm interested in.

To be true to the OP, I'm hurt because I am also an avid AMD fan, not so much so I won't easily recommend an i5 2500k or even i3 2100's to people, but I was really hoping the 6100 would at least match the 2500k in terms of performance, that would've made me happy as I don't have money to throw away, and the extra two cores would've meant it did slightly better in threaded apps and rendering.

I'm kinda lucky I don't have money to throw away, or I'd be gutted I bought a 990FX and seen the results of BD's release, with a Rep like JF-AMD disputing the validity of all the benches at the time, saying BD had a higher IPC than the previous Gen (how far back did he mean?), I even thought that BD couldn't have been as bad as we're seeing. Now we've even got the 1090 Chipset due for release soonish.

Recently I've seen a few people that actually have BD posting some decent figures in benches (mostly the 8120's, the 4100's are awful), and saying they're getting much higher performance than the initial reviews put out, so although I'm leaning toward getting a 2500k build, I'm still highly intrigued in BD's potential.

I likely won't be able to afford a rig upgrade until early 2012 anyway, so I'll still be doing research until then.
 
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The real question here is why do you still insist on posting in BD threads useless info or something that is totally off topic? Post your benches over in the Intel thread please, this is about BD, not intel.

Here I'll even help...http://www.overclock.net/f/5/intel-cpus
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I call BS on that screenshot.
How are you getting 8.4 with a 3.35 clock on an i5? Best I could ever get on my overclocked I5 was mid 7's.
Run your test again with the screenshot and prove it.

cinebench shows the frequency you were running when you booted into windows afaik. And no the i5 is not running at 3.35. it's well over 5ghz.
 
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Having a hard time following the discussion?



Your powers of observation are underwhelming at best, it clearly shows it's close to 5.3GHz.


Well, if it's not BS, where's the screenshot then? Should be a simple matter of running the test again right?
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and yes, those are i7's below it in the screenshot.

how about you OC older i7s before knocking them down.

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and yes, while being beat by a small margin by BD in multithreaded apps it wins royally in singlethreaded ones. And oh yes this thing was bought 2,5 years ago for the price of a 8150 right now.

And that is why people are butthurt. It simply doesn't offer good enough performance to compete with intel at the moment. And for this reason we get higher prices etc. it's not fun for anyone.
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Well, if it's not BS, where's the screenshot then? Should be a simple matter of running the test again right?

the screen is valid. Take a look at mine above, it's the same thing. Booted up at a lower frequency, upped the speed in windows = cine shows a lower freq.
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