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post #11 of 21
I'd get a better case because that Apex one is pretty junkie. Something like the NZXT Gamma or a more HTPC type case like the Silverstone ML03B. I wouldn't get a full size keyboard and mouse for a HTPC, too tedious to use and store. I'd get a Lenovo N5902 Multimedia Remote with Keyboard. It's very compact and has a built-in optical mouse and backlit keyboard, plus dedicated media keys. It has been on sale for $35 before so just wait for another deal like that.
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I'd get a better case because that Apex one is pretty junkie. Something like the NZXT Gamma or a more HTPC type case like the Silverstone ML03B. I wouldn't get a full size keyboard and mouse for a HTPC, too tedious to use and store. I'd get a Lenovo N5902 Multimedia Remote with Keyboard. It's very compact and has a built-in optical mouse and backlit keyboard, plus dedicated media keys. It has been on sale for $35 before so just wait for another deal like that.

We always have the mentality of "spend a little more, get a better system" lol. That's a great deal man, but this is a budget build witb a low budget. As long as its black, cheap, amd matx it's fine.

Good deal on the remote, but we would prefer the utlity of a real mouse and keyboard.
post #13 of 21
Oh Jesus!!

Dump that piece of crap Celeron singlecore. The very moment you watch a 1080p video while your GF has, let's say, a download manager on the background and a few tabs opened it will start to scream. Remember it's just got a single core, and HD playback is already putting a strain on it.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157277
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103955

And you don't need a dedi graphics card. The iGPU will playback 1080p great.
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We always have the mentality of "spend a little more, get a better system" lol. That's a great deal man, but this is a budget build witb a low budget. As long as its black, cheap, amd matx it's fine.
Good deal on the remote, but we would prefer the utlity of a real mouse and keyboard.
Sorry, I didn't notice that it was a Micro ATX case.
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Oh Jesus!!
Dump that piece of crap Celeron singlecore. The very moment you watch a 1080p video while your GF has, let's say, a download manager on the background and a few tabs opened it will start to scream. Remember it's just got a single core, and HD playback is already putting a strain on it.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157277
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103955
And you don't need a dedi graphics card. The iGPU will playback 1080p great.
It's not a single-core Celeron, that would be the G440 which is also only clocked at 1.6GHz. The chip that Dezixn chose is the Celeron G530 which is a dual-core clocked at 2.4GHz.
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post #15 of 21
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Oh Jesus!!
Dump that piece of crap Celeron singlecore. The very moment you watch a 1080p video while your GF has, let's say, a download manager on the background and a few tabs opened it will start to scream. Remember it's just got a single core, and HD playback is already putting a strain on it.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157277
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103955
And you don't need a dedi graphics card. The iGPU will playback 1080p great.

About the G440, what the guy bellow said.

But, I did switch to AMD! Check my updated first post now. I got some help from the Intel General section and someone pointed out a great deal on the phenom ii x4. My cost savings more than make up for the dedicated GPU, and I'd like the GPU for some casual gaming as well. The system switched from pure HTPC to a more general system with HTPC capabilities.
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Sorry, I didn't notice that it was a Micro ATX case.
It's not a single-core Celeron, that would be the G440 which is also only clocked at 1.6GHz. The chip that Dezixn chose is the Celeron G530 which is a dual-core clocked at 2.4GHz.

Yup.
post #16 of 21
Oh yes, my fault.

It has actually a nice performance there, but having to get a dedicated GPU is a drawback to me.

If you get the APU, you have a relatively strong GPU on the CPU, paired with a low power CPU that does what it promises. HD playback and some gaming.

Power consumption is to be taken into account aswell. The Celeron alone eats the same power as the APU, but the APU has a GPU in there.



It depends on what are your preferences mostly.
   
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looks like you're a great bargain hunter! i yard sale shop for mouses/keyboards..lol
 
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I don't think you need a CPU cooler, my HTPC runs fine with its stock cooler... and it gets like no air.
Also that RF kb and mouse will NOT have good range. I had a set on my HTPC and it would constantly lose signal and wouldnt work correctly. I would suggest bluetooth instead.
    
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post #19 of 21
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Oh yes, my fault.
It has actually a nice performance there, but having to get a dedicated GPU is a drawback to me.
If you get the APU, you have a relatively strong GPU on the CPU, paired with a low power CPU that does what it promises. HD playback and some gaming.
Power consumption is to be taken into account aswell. The Celeron alone eats the same power as the APU, but the APU has a GPU in there.
It depends on what are your preferences mostly.

Well in my updated post I have a $50 Phenom II X4, not the celeron anymore. The Fusion setup is certainly attractive, but at my price point I could only afford the a4, and I can't find any benchmarks on the a4, but I assume the AMD HD 6450 beats the pants off of it. For $20 AR that's an awesome dedicated card. This system would probably be well bellow 100w even when being used anyways, I don't think power consumption is much of a concern here.
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looks like you're a great bargain hunter! i yard sale shop for mouses/keyboards..lol

Oh yes I am, every day the total price drops by a few dollars, or I get a same cost upgrade. If I had time I'd check out yard sales too lol.
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I don't think you need a CPU cooler, my HTPC runs fine with its stock cooler... and it gets like no air.
Also that RF kb and mouse will NOT have good range. I had a set on my HTPC and it would constantly lose signal and wouldnt work correctly. I would suggest bluetooth instead.

I wholeheartedly agree. Just one problem, the OEM Phenom II X4 doesn't come with any cooler redface.gif. I'm going to see if microcenter can spare me a stock cooler while I'm there.

Hmm I saw some of that in the reviews... most were positive though. That's good info, but I think I've found another wireless set anyways and now I'll definitely stay away from that combo. A lot of people seem to be complaining about RF keyboards/mice, I had a cheap set years ago and it worked great across the room. Maybe build quality has gone down lately, or it's the vocal minority.
post #20 of 21
Definitely, the Phenom X4+HD6450 beats the piss out of the Fusion.

Good choice on the CPU. You can undervolt it quite a lot and it will end up eating less than a lighter!!

Serve as comparison, I had my chip (X6, quite a difference in power consumption) at 1.104V, at 3GHz! And that was because the board wouldn't go lower than that tongue.gif


That Phenom can be set stable at stock speeds I guess at 1V or so. Maybe less.
   
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