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Yeah, people need to chill out lol

agreed! I mean it stinks but oooooo big deal. I mean I've spent thousands on folding and i'm not crying about it.
Am I happy about it? nope, but nothing I can do about it. Just roll with the punches and go with it.

in the end, if it means i need to build a 32 core system or 48 core system, so be it. Not like that's going to be hard with a SR-3 rig or anything
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I asked some FF members if SR-2's could be configured to meet the 16 core/time limit and the answer was "yes". Why is it being said here that "SR-2 folding rigs are gooing to be sold cheap"? as if they will not be able to do -bigadv.
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2 6 core 1366 xeons. Boom.


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I can't get over some of the people over at EVGA forums. We are contributing to science and they want to Occupy PG. We should be happy we can contribute in any way possible.

The river of tears flowing from the EVGA forum over this is epic.rolleyes.gif
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post #105 of 225
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People shouldn't be too upset, like others have said it's about the science and PG are just doing what they think will help science the most. Yes they might be wrong but they know a lot more than us about how things work in the system as a whole. I'm not sure I understand why bigadv is more of a hassle on their end than SMP. In the long run it's not good for people to be buying hardware that is suboptimal for the research to avoid upsetting those who have already bought into it.
As for the points side, (and the reality is that points do encourage people to fold more, and that this change will discourage some people) the problem has always been that the bigadv/hugeadv vs smp is such a big points difference. People get upset when their ppd is reduced. Maybe the obvious answer would be to boost SMP points if that's what they want people to run. With the recent bigadv shortage I've learned that I can drop from 80kppd when running hugeadv to 30kppd running SMP. How is that balanced and how does that encourage me to run SMP? Hugeadv should be a slight boost to points, not a 2.5x factor. The points system should be used to reflect relative worth to PG, if SMP is worth more than hugeadv then why are the points so low? Are the relative ppd of gpu vs smp also skewed way off?
Maybe they're just trying to scare everyone who was thinking of getting a 3930k into getting an 8 core xeon in Q1 wink.gif Oh and 2nd hand SR2 folding rigs should be getting very cheap very soon, maybe time for some to sell their 2600k rigs and pick up those instead wink.gif
Personally I was hoping to use ivy bridge in a bunch of upgrades (home server build, wife's rig rebuild, maybe even a dedicated folder), this may change the plan, maybe I'd be better off with 1 more powerful rig. At the least if they go ahead with this I hope they release a hugeadv core for windows. Running 16 threads on vmware is not going to either work (isn't the max 8 on 3.0.0?) or be efficient.
Was this line about SR-2's getting cheap a joke?
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In reality those that were using the core hack have no reason to be upset. You new from the beginning that you were doing something that was not supported and there was a good chance something would be done. The problem that has arisen is that allot of rigs that are supposed to be running smp WU's are running bigadv and creating a backlog of smp wu's which is slowing down the science and too many cpu's are now folding bigadv WU's which from the beginning was intended for upper end equipment, even I new that someday my Gulftowns would no longer be capable of doing them. The bigadv WU's are just being moved to where they belong, back to upper end hardware and the mainstream hardware is going back to where it belongs doing smp and GPU WU's. Some of the highly OCed Hexes and maybe 2600ks may still be able to do bigadv we will not know the answer to that question until they set the new deadlines. I myself have been planning on building a 4P rig so this just makes me do it sooner and it makes sense for me to do it, hell running 5 gulfies is expensive when it comes to electricity. I can run 1 4P rig with about 35% of the electricity I am using now and get more PPD and do more science thumb.gif

If all that is important to a person is the points then I do not know what to say to you so I will say nothing other than I do agree the points do add some fun, but there is more to it than that.wink.gif
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8 cores is max on all VMware desktop virtualization products (not esxi) so if you intend to virtualize anything bigger than a 2600k you need to use vbox.


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But you do not need a 4P rig as the SR-2 will do just fine.
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But you do not need a 4P rig as the SR-2 will do just fine.

Yes a SR-2 will do just fine but a 48core G34 AMD rig will do better biggrin.gif 500,000+ PPD
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But you do not need a 4P rig as the SR-2 will do just fine.

Dam doubble post I do not like this new set up can we have the old 1 back biggrin.gif
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