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Okay. Good luck to you, sir.
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Man, honestly I really love it. The uefi could be better but I had this cpu in a diff motherboard and it overclocks so much better! Has 12+2 phase power and it can really take a lot of volts. Compare it to other am3+ mobos and its basically the same but cost little less. ASRock is def establishing themselves to be a very good mobo maker away from asus. Quad sli or xfire. Usb 3.0 in io panel and two usb3.0 connections inside for back of case and front of case. And many overclock options. I have yet to have to clear cmos from clocking it to high and it failing to turn on. It always atleast gets to the bios no matter what is wrong. Def look into it. Sorry so long lol no I'm not a spokesperson for asr haha just love my board

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well that right there is pretty much what i was hoping for, the brand itself can rave about its products all it wants, it is the customers that praise the product that sells it. =)

Thanks man
no problem man glad I could help. It came with a feature called instant boot. Now I have a ssd but it blows that away. Your computer restarts when you click shut down then after restart it turns completely off. Well atleast looks completely off. No lights no fans no sounds or anything. Then u hit the power button and 6 seconds later ur at the desktop ready to do whatever. Pretty neat. Oh and it has 5 connectors on the board for fans and the mofsets (spelling?) Can take some mad volts and heat cause I loaded 1.6v on my cpu and booted at 4.6ghz but temp was too high in prime so had to back down. For under $200 there is no better motherboard

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temps were too high with an h100!?!?! lol i have pumped that much through my chip that i have now, (don't know how my board didn't explode with its 4+2 phase cpu power) with my 212+ and some low room temps it never went over 49°C lol
Well I live in fl and am a cheapo with the a/c so house stays around 80 f. Secondly I look at cpu temp (was around 64c. And core temp never got above 53.) Oh under load it goes to 1.62 v with llc disabled. Nothin wrong with me backing down with temps, its my main rig and can afford to lose it. I am happy at 4.3ghz
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We got our first BSOD tonight, spit back a ram issue, switched to an extra set one of our mutual friends had laying around, seeing how this goes...
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We got our first BSOD tonight, spit back a ram issue, switched to an extra set one of our mutual friends had laying around, seeing how this goes...
Ram troubles eh? What speed is the ram factory and what is it overclocked to exactly? Also what are factory SPD timings for the speet its at. If your timings are too tight for the ram frequency it will fail. Example 1333mhz (667 in cpu-z) timings are around cl8 or 8-8-8-25 if u have overclocked higher u gotta raise the timings to cl9 or 9-9-9-27. These are just estimates. Play with the timings and make sure voltage is set properly according to ram factory recomendations
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Shutdown without BSOD or event logs would suggest thermal shutdown, likely with the CPU or northbridge. SINCE your CPU temps are at 30C under Skyrim load (which is most impressive and almost unbelievable), then those shutdowns could be due to ram overheating I suppose, but I've only seen thermal shutdowns without event log entry occur with the CPU personally. I was pushing for BSOD codes because you're claiming thermal shutdown was not an issue with CPU temps being what they were. It's unlikely that a PSU would operate fine, but under Skyrim loads just decide to shut down completely. Even then, there would/should be enough residual voltage to log a system failure.

Question. What changed exactly, that causes you to receive BSOD instead of abrubt shutdown? Or are you still getting the shutdown at times, but now the BSOD is happening from time to time as well?

Have you ran memtest and chkdisk yet?

Edit: Skyrim is pretty CPU as well as GPU intensive. Do you have anything that logs CPU utilization and temps while you are playing, so you can look at it later? I mean, I'm just curious of what you are using that shows 30C under Skyrim load. And also, what settings are you using in game?
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We got our first BSOD tonight, spit back a ram issue, switched to an extra set one of our mutual friends had laying around, seeing how this goes...
Ram troubles eh? What speed is the ram factory and what is it overclocked to exactly? Also what are factory SPD timings for the speet its at. If your timings are too tight for the ram frequency it will fail. Example 1333mhz (667 in cpu-z) timings are around cl8 or 8-8-8-25 if u have overclocked higher u gotta raise the timings to cl9 or 9-9-9-27. These are just estimates. Play with the timings and make sure voltage is set properly according to ram factory recomendations
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This computer isn't overclocked at all, everything is total stock...
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Shutdown without BSOD or event logs would suggest thermal shutdown, likely with the CPU or northbridge. SINCE your CPU temps are at 30C under Skyrim load (which is most impressive and almost unbelievable), then those shutdowns could be due to ram overheating I suppose, but I've only seen thermal shutdowns without event log entry occur with the CPU personally. I was pushing for BSOD codes because you're claiming thermal shutdown was not an issue with CPU temps being what they were. It's unlikely that a PSU would operate fine, but under Skyrim loads just decide to shut down completely. Even then, there would/should be enough residual voltage to log a system failure.

Question. What changed exactly, that causes you to receive BSOD instead of abrubt shutdown? Or are you still getting the shutdown at times, but now the BSOD is happening from time to time as well?

Have you ran memtest and chkdisk yet?

Edit: Skyrim is pretty CPU as well as GPU intensive. Do you have anything that logs CPU utilization and temps while you are playing, so you can look at it later? I mean, I'm just curious of what you are using that shows 30C under Skyrim load. And also, what settings are you using in game?

well for one, it isn't me, i have no idea what he is using for settings, all i do know is that he runs Coretemp, task manager (on performance tab), and afterburner on his second screen to monitor everything, the highest i have seen his cpu hit was like 36, the cooler he has on it is a bit of a sleeper lol. also him and his room mate always have their windows open (we are in Vermont) so his room temp is usually sub 60°F

only thing we changed was that he added 4 more gigs of ram, we took the old stuff out after the first actual BSOD we got and he has run perfectly since. Personally i think it was the ram just seeing the brand his old ram was (OCZ)

we have not had a chance to do memtest or chkdsk yet, we have been pretty swamped with all our teachers wanting to get the first parts of our finals before thanks giving break

also on a side note, i didn't know this but the guy who set his system up for him operationally shut off the "auto restart on failure" thing already that is how we saw the BSOD, he actually was able to come across the hall and get me to show it to me.
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Oh, so basically he was mix matching ram? It's wierd that it would create a problem like you initially described, but I suppose it's possible. Exactly what model of ram, both new and old sticks, and what model is his motherboard? I'd double check to make sure the ram is all on the QVL for the mobo, and I'm almost certain any of the manufacturers are not going to want to help you with the mix and matching going on, as none of them will gaurantee product compatibility under those circumstances. Even if they are the same brand, sometimes the model numbers are slightly different, and issues can arrise. Skyrim isn't going to use more than 2g of ram anyways (from what I'm reading on the webz), so just using the 4g sticks and keeping background progs at a minimal should be more than enough I think. Either way, I'd run memtest on the system a few times. Once with the old sticks, once with the new, and then once with all of them. CHKDSK wouldn't hurt either. Let us know what else you find. My curiousity is being peaked. tongue.gif
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Oh, so basically he was mix matching ram? It's wierd that it would create a problem like you initially described, but I suppose it's possible. Exactly what model of ram, both new and old sticks, and what model is his motherboard? I'd double check to make sure the ram is all on the QVL for the mobo, and I'm almost certain any of the manufacturers are not going to want to help you with the mix and matching going on, as none of them will gaurantee product compatibility under those circumstances. Even if they are the same brand, sometimes the model numbers are slightly different, and issues can arrise. Skyrim isn't going to use more than 2g of ram anyways (from what I'm reading on the webz), so just using the 4g sticks and keeping background progs at a minimal should be more than enough I think. Either way, I'd run memtest on the system a few times. Once with the old sticks, once with the new, and then once with all of them. CHKDSK wouldn't hurt either. Let us know what else you find. My curiousity is being peaked. tongue.gif

well Unfortunitally i have already left college for thanksgiving break so i wont hear from him until i go back next week, hopefully he and his friend who originally set the computer up for him will figure something out
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as proved by here and here, it doesn't look like it is hardware, Skyrim is the thing that is buggy (well we all knew that) but apparently it is buggier than we all thought
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