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post #21 of 52
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Out of curiosity, why'd you go for a p67 motherboard? You can get an asus p8z68 v-pro for $195 off newegg. Z68 just seems like a more "complete" version of p67, at least to me. It offers all the same features + a couple extras. Also, you could probably cut that motherboard down a bit to save some money. If you go with something like this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128506 you could save $50 bucks or so after rebate.

Honestly I was going with it because I have a friend with one and the reviews are excellent. I'd appreciate more z68 mobo suggestions, none of the ones mentioned so far have a ton of reviews so I'd be a little nervous.

EDIT: This board seems really nice and I've always liked Asrock. Any thoughts?

ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157271


Also any thoughts on a different case? He's willing to spend more to get a nicer case, is the Cooler Master 690 a better buy?
Edited by Jarobata - 11/18/11 at 11:12am
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EDIT: This board seems really nice and I've always liked Asrock. Any thoughts?
ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3:

The ASRock boards seem to be well liked here at OCN. I have a friend who has one and you definitely cannot beat the features you get for the price. I say go for it if you want z68. The only main down point is the warranty is only 2 years IIRC where as similar ASUS boards usually have 3. I'll admit, the ASRock boards do look better than the ASUS boards in most cases other than the Sabertooth.
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I'd go for a Radeon 6870, or a 560ti. No point getting a 570.
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post #24 of 52
Whoa slow down.

1. Don't assume SLI. Get this PSU. Same price much better. Ends 11/21

2. What monitor/resolution is he going to use. What quality does he plan to game at.
He could easily spend ~500-600 on the PC and still have a wonderful experience at certain resolutions.
On the other hand, He could easily spend 1000 and not see the full value of his PC unless he spends another ~200 on a quality monitor.


Your friend is counting on you to make good decisions about his money.
Make sure you explain to him what he is actually getting before you decide for him.

Ask him about Overclocking. Does he want to do over 5.0Ghz?
If not, get a budget board. ASrock Extreme3 Gen3 is nice.
Talk to him about SLI/CF. Playing D3 won't require insane FPS.
If not he could easily drop down to a 560 TI or SLI GTX 460s for the same performance
Find out when he plans to do his next upgrade.

Better yet, introduce him to this forum and let him ask questions.

I'd only recommend i5 2500k, GTX 570 if he wants to play Skyrim/MW3 at high resolutions/settings.
If just Diablo 3, Guild Wars 2, Dota 2 etc. Build a budget system and use the savings to buy a better monitor or more games.
Edited by SpiritGear - 11/18/11 at 11:44am
 
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If you insist on spending $1000
Here are some change's I would make

Case: CM HAF 912 60 + Shipping
PSU: Seasonic X 650w 100
CPU: i5 2500k 190 @ ncix
HSF: CM Hyper 212+ 25
MB: Asrock Extreme3 Gen3 ~130
RAM: 2x4GB G.SKill Sniper 1600 CL9 1.5v 44
GPU: Gigabyte GTX 570 SOC 370 <---indulging a bit here (though I expect prices to drop when AMD releases their HD 7000 series.)*
SSD: Crucial M4 128GB 210<---and here
OD: Generic SATA DVD Burner 20
Total $1149+Shipping
Of course the only things on sale here are the CPU/PSU.
Keeping this setup, major discounts would come from the GPU/SSD being on sale.

Other option is to drop the SSD to a 64GB, and switch out the GTX 570 for a more relevant solution.

*Could opt for GTX 460 SLI/6850 CF or Single GTX 560 Ti , HD 6870
Edited by SpiritGear - 11/18/11 at 12:13pm
 
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post #26 of 52
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Whoa slow down.
1. Don't assume SLI. Get this PSU. Same price much better. Ends 11/21
2. What monitor/resolution is he going to use. What quality does he plan to game at.
He could easily spend ~500-600 on the PC and still have a wonderful experience at certain resolutions.
On the other hand, He could easily spend 1000 and not see the full value of his PC unless he spends another ~200 on a quality monitor.
Your friend is counting on you to make good decisions about his money.
Make sure you explain to him what he is actually getting before you decide for him.
Ask him about Overclocking. Does he want to do over 5.0Ghz?
If not, get a budget board. ASrock Extreme3 Gen3 is nice.
Talk to him about SLI/CF. Playing D3 won't require insane FPS.
If not he could easily drop down to a 560 TI or SLI GTX 460s for the same performance
Find out when he plans to do his next upgrade.
Better yet, introduce him to this forum and let him ask questions.
I'd only recommend i5 2500k, GTX 570 if he wants to play Skyrim/MW3 at high resolutions/settings.
If just Diablo 3, Guild Wars 2, Dota 2 etc. Build a budget system and use the savings to buy a better monitor or more games.

I updated the build, changing to the Asrock Mobo and the Cooler Master 690 Nvidia Edition (he likes the green).

I think this is sound advice. I did explain to him that D3 won't use much GPU power but he said he wanted something nice so I was going for the best I could do for 1000. I think your point about the monitor is valid (especially since I think he has a 15inch).

I was planning on overclocking his CPU to the mid 4's on the 212+.

I think with your advice in mind I'll downgrade the GPU and add a monitor.

I'm changing out the 570 for a 560Ti, and adding the ASUS VW246H.

With the downgrade to the 560Ti I'll add the Seasonic 650W as it could handle 560Ti SLI down the road and Seasonics are the best.

How do these changes strike you guys?

EDIT:
Updated Build:

Mobo: ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 ($124.99)
PSU: SeaSonic X Series X650 ($99.99)
CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K ($224.99)
CPU Cooler: COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus ($25.99)
GPU: EVGA GTX 560 Ti ($249.99)
Case: COOLER MASTER CM 690 II Advanced nVidia Edition ($99.99)
Memory: G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 1600 ($44.99)
Monitor: ASUS VW246H (199.99)
HDD: Use old one, prices now are ridiculous

Subtotal: $990.93
Shipping:$31.61
SubTotal:$1,132.53
Rebates: ($30.00)
Promo Codes: ($50.00)
Total:$1,052.53
Edited by Jarobata - 11/18/11 at 1:49pm
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i5 2500k is $190 from NCIX.us
I'd also get low profile ram like G.Skill Sniper or Mushkin Blackline so it'll fit under the tower coolers.
(It'll also match the color scheme on the ASRock)

Don't know much about monitors.

Looks good. thumb.gif

Little CPU heavy but he can pick up another GTX 560 Ti when the new ones come out or when the prices drop.

I'd personally go for the Corsair 500R $100 @ NCIX.us
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Edited by SpiritGear - 11/18/11 at 3:10pm
 
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i5 2500k is $190 from NCIX.us
I'd also get low profile ram like G.Skill Sniper or Mushkin Blackline so it'll fit under the tower coolers.
(It'll also match the color scheme on the ASRock)
Don't know much about monitors.
Looks good. thumb.gif
Little CPU heavy but he can pick up another GTX 560 Ti when the new ones come out or when the prices drop.
I'd personally go for the Corsair 500R $100 @ NCIX.us

This one?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231461

is 190 a good price on the 2500k? He can wait a little while for deals.
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post #29 of 52
NCIX has been selling them for around $190 for a while now.
Lowest I've seen them on Newegg is 200 (though you could grab some combo deals).

If you have a Microcenter nearby. The best deal is the i5 2500k + Gigabyte Z68 UD3H ~$270+Tax.
OR They also have a $60 discount on select motherboards

Also NCIX has an EVGA 560 Ti -AR for 230 (w/ $10 rebate)
Lifetime warranty + Free Batman Arkham City.

If he can wait a bit longer.
Nvidia plans to cut prices when the HD 7000 series comes out.
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Is it worth it to upgrade to the 1866:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231460

or are will these do the job:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231461

Keep in mind I'm hoping to get the 2500k to ~4.5ghz
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