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Well what about the Phenom II X6 CPU's? are those just as good as the 2600k?

Not even close. They are more like a 2500K in multithreaded apps. The 2600K blows it away.

The X6's are slightly slower (Like VERY slight) than the 8 core bulldozer in multitheaded apps, although they do use much less power too compared to bulldozer.
Edited by iinversion - 11/15/11 at 6:47pm
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Gappo's just speshul tongue.gif ..actually ..BD does run higher RAMs..but I like the way da SB does it better tongue.gif ..OP ..a OC'd 1090t platform is a Fine setup..P.S. Gappo..he's wanting a daily use system......
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Wow really? One would think that 6 cores would be better than 4 cores but the HT has a lot to go about.

That's what I thought too.. but then I realized different programs use different elements.. eg.. threads vs cores. And most programs use more threads than cores. So really having more cores is useless unless the program is built to use more than 4 cores. And right now there are not too many programs using more than 4 cores.

In the future the cores might be good, but I'd leave the extra 2-4 cores and go with Intel's SB. ALso Intel has the new ivy bridge coming out.. and I think it has 6 cores? So that will be a better investment and Im sure it will blow away the AMD bulldozer.
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post #14 of 26

If you're making money off your work, and getting done faster = more profit, get a 2011 x6 from Intel. 


Otherwise, the i5-2500k is slightly slower per clock than the x8 bulldozer chip in applications that can use eight threads, but the i5 uses about 40% less power at the same time. The i7-2600k it about 30% faster than the i5 in many threaded applications, so it would be noticeably faster than the x8 bulldozer chip as well.

 

The fastest option would be the $600~ x6 from Intel on 2011, it's not a cheap platform though, even the mobo's are expensive, but if you're turning a profit on times it's the best option imo.

    
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buy bulldozer.

this way you will get a am3+ socket mobo, into which you will be able to shove in 12 core bulldozers that will come out next year.

if you go and buy 2600 like a moron, you wont be able to shove anything in. not even Sandy bridge E can be put into it - SBEs themselves require NEW socket.

and if you go buy SBE like a fool, next year, when ivy bridge comes out, you will AGAIN have to change your motherboard because it requires a new socket.

such is the way with intel. in order to milk customer in every way, they change everything. pay them your money if you want too much.

others would just keep shoving in many core bulldozers next year.

ah by the way, as you can see from sandy bridge e having 8 cores, but being able to make only 6 work at one time, intel is behind in this core business, and will be so even with ivy bridge since they have not invested into a technology that would allow them to increase cores by just slapping them. bulldozer, is that - they will slap 4 cores every year.

............

so your choice is - buy intel and pay them again and again next year because they will change sockets and get behind in core race, which matters to your video editing,

or, buy a bulldozer which does NOT lag behind (it performs exactly in the specified placement range) its competitors, and then next year just shove in a much more multithread-capable 12 or 16 core version. while the other fools pay $900 to intel for maybe 8 true cores that work.
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As far as I know there is no 12 core bulldozer slated for AM3+ next year.

 

Also Ivy Bridge will work on current 1155 boards, it has been confirmed. It would make sense IBe will work on current 2011 boards as well.

 

 

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If your sole purpose is video editing I'd consider the 1090T over bulldozer, for $170 new it's not that far behind a higher clocked bulldozer x8. At the top of the food chain if you're making money off your work, is 2011 socket from Intel which offers the x6 SBe which as you can see demolishes everything else.

    
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As far as I know there is no 12 core bulldozer slated for AM3+ next year.

wrong. they told that every year they were going to out a new dozer.

and unlike intel, amd actually does what they tell :
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Also Ivy Bridge will work on current 1155 boards, it has been confirmed. It would make sense IBe will work on current 2011 boards as well.

they were saying this for sbE too. what happened ?

new socket.

anyone who would be trusting intel to not upgrade their socket next year would be a moron. intel had NOT been reliable and trustworthy in regard to its customers, and they have done everything to get extra cash from them however they can.

they WILL sell new sockets and all the chipsets/mobos that go with it next year. its all for more profit at whatever cost.
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If your sole purpose is video editing I'd consider the 1090T over bulldozer, for $170 new it's not that far behind a higher clocked bulldozer x8. At the top of the food chain if you're making money off your work, is 2011 socket from Intel which offers the x6 SBe which as you can see demolishes everything else.

he is not going to buy the am3+ platform for CURRENT bulldozer anyway. at least, not until the silicon cutting matures and the yields per chip increase. not that the current dozer would leave him halfway though. its still capable chip.

he is going to buy the platform for future upgrades.
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buy bulldozer.
this way you will get a am3+ socket mobo, into which you will be able to shove in 12 core bulldozers that will come out next year.
if you go and buy 2600 like a moron, you wont be able to shove anything in. not even Sandy bridge E can be put into it - SBEs themselves require NEW socket.
and if you go buy SBE like a fool, next year, when ivy bridge comes out, you will AGAIN have to change your motherboard because it requires a new socket.
such is the way with intel. in order to milk customer in every way, they change everything. pay them your money if you want too much.
others would just keep shoving in many core bulldozers next year.
ah by the way, as you can see from sandy bridge e having 8 cores, but being able to make only 6 work at one time, intel is behind in this core business, and will be so even with ivy bridge since they have not invested into a technology that would allow them to increase cores by just slapping them. bulldozer, is that - they will slap 4 cores every year.
............
so your choice is - buy intel and pay them again and again next year because they will change sockets and get behind in core race, which matters to your video editing,
or, buy a bulldozer which does NOT lag behind (it performs exactly in the specified placement range) its competitors, and then next year just shove in a much more multithread-capable 12 or 16 core version. while the other fools pay $900 to intel for maybe 8 true cores that work.

Not sure if serious. This...just maybe... Gets the award for the dumbest post i have ever seen on Overclock.net. I am honestly stunned by the sheer amount of ignorance you were able to stuff into a single post. Nowhere in your "discussion" did you approach anything remotely resembling a logical thought. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
 
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I had the choice but I decided to go with the 2600k instead... that is for video editing...and aftereffects. I don't think the cores make a huge difference for the programs. Its more of the ram

wrong. the cores are the huge factor in this kind of use, not the ram.
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Well, I think I will stick with intel because of the performance seems to have upper hand here. I don't think I'll need to upgrade my motherboard and socket every year though when a new CPU comes out. The new 2011 CPUs will do just fine for about 2-3 years give or take. Not worried about speeds that speed up rendering times quicker. I just need to get my work done efficiently.
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