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Hey everyone,
Here are the parts that I'm looking at purchasing for my new Sandy Bridge build:

4x Patriot G2 Series Division 4GB 1X4GB PC3-12800 DDR3 1600MHz 9-9-9-24 1.5V XMP Memory Module
http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=59540&promoid=1282

Intel Core i7 2600K Quad Core Unlocked Hyperthreading Processor LGA1155 3.4GHZ Sandy Bridge 8MB
http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=57960&promoid=1282

ASUS P8P67 Pro REV3.1 ATX P67 LGA1155 DDR3 3PCI-E16 2PCI-E1 2PCI Sandy Bridge B3 Motherboard
http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=63761

Total cost:
$694.32 w/ tax and shipping included



I'm pretty sure I'm gonna go with 16GB and the 2600K only because I want to be able to run four VMs without any slowdown for browser testing in their true environments (IE6, IE7, IE8, IE9)

My biggest questions are:
- Is the 2600K a worthy upgrade over the 2500K in terms of how it handles virtualization?
- How fast can the 2600K's overclock to? (safely)
- How fast can I expect to overclock a 2600K with my Hyper 212+? (safely)
- Is this a good set of 16GB memory price/performance wise or can I find better elsewhere?

Thanks!
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Not too sure on how well the 2600k will yield over the 2500k to be honest but I'd expect you should see some improvement since it will offer more CPU power for the VMs.

You can very easily OC the 2600k to 4.5 or 4.6GHz, people have been able to reach 5.0 GHz quite easily as well but definitely with aftermarket coolers. With the 212 I'd say you can run 4.5 ~ 4.7GHz fairly easily. Some people are able to do this with the stock cooler but it will just mean higher temps. As far as "safely" goes, the Sandy Bridge processors OC extremely well (and easily), it really just comes down to how quiet/cool you want the chip to be running.

Yeah, the RAM looks fine to me. Triple Channel memory is all around the same price nowadays unless you're looking to go with higher frequency modules.
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Is this memory triple channel DDR3?
http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=59540&promoid=1282

It doesn't say on the product page? (Unless all DDR3 memory is triple channel?)

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Based on what I can tell it is a triple channel module. Plus, $24.99 for a single 4GB dual channel module would be way overpriced tongue.gif

http://patriotmemory.com/products/detailp.jsp?prodline=5&catid=34&prodgroupid=196&id=1091&type=1
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post #5 of 19
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OK, cool!

So what sort of speed differences can I expect to see from this new Sandy Bridge build compared to my sig rig?
Will my GPU perform any better or will it stay at about the same FPS for gaming?

Will the overall performance be about 3x faster? 5x faster? 10x faster?
(And I'm also thinking about buying a SATA3 SSD to help with load times too)

Thanks!
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Sb is double not triple channel RAM, I would say get these and leave 2 slots free, if and when you need to upgrade the ram you can do so that way, these ain't so bad: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=57953&vpn=F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL&manufacture=G%2ESkill

and if you're looking for some budget ones, these would be pretty decent: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=57869&vpn=KHX1600C9D3K2%2F8GX&manufacture=Kingston&promoid=1282

There is no reason to populate 4 slots as that won't leave you room to upgrade if you want to in the future especially if you're running VM's, on that note 8GB would be a good idea smile.gif

Yeah the upgrade will be noticeable, I went from a 775 Q6600 to a 2500k and the difference was quite a bit, encoding times gaming the whole lot was just a massive boost. You certainly won't regret it tongue.gif

As my good friend TwoCables describes it, it's like Alien Technology!!! tongue.gif
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Alright, so what exactly is the difference between triple channel and dual channel then?
I see that triple channel is only sold in sets of 3x sticks (leaving one slot open)

I was hoping to have 16GB of RAM for my VM's (2GB per VM while still giving the parent OS an adequate amount)
Perhaps 12GB of triple channel is enough?

But if I'm shooting myself in the foot by going for triple channel DDR3 rather than dual channel DDR3 please let me know.
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If you go with the P67 or Z68 platform you won't be able to use the triple channel memory since those platforms only support dual channel. Dual channel RAM is much cheaper anyway, you can easily get 16GB for around $100 or even less nowadays.

If you really want to use triple channel you need to go with the X58 platform.
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Alright, so what exactly is the difference between triple channel and dual channel then?
I see that triple channel is only sold in sets of 3x sticks (leaving one slot open)
I was hoping to have 16GB of RAM for my VM's (2GB per VM while still giving the parent OS an adequate amount)
Perhaps 12GB of triple channel is enough?
But if I'm shooting myself in the foot by going for triple channel DDR3 rather than dual channel DDR3 please let me know.
Thanks,

Like I mentioned SB is not compatible with triple channel memory so the only option you have is dual channel. The kit's I mentioned above should do the job, if you require more than 8gb then get 2 set's,16gb should be more than enough smile.gif
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Thanks guys!

I've been doing some research and it seems like triple channel memory has the potential to be better in the future, but it's sort of like 64-bit when it first came out? It just wasn't utilized in the day to day environment during it's initial release to the market?

That's the way I understand it anyway..

I think I will need 16GB only because if I'm running 4 VM's with 2GB of memory each, that will eat up 8GB right there. Plus 8GB seems like a good number to have for the parent OS that is running all of those VM's. Other than running four VM's, I'm thinking 16GB won't really be used up, even with Photoshop or gaming?
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