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that build will be on ebay after im done with this one
i am overseas and there is no way for me to post pictures of it.
but i will post lots of pics for this one once its complete smile.gif

Didnt you say you are married? You're wife could certainly take a couple pictures with your OCN name by it and email them to you.
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Didnt you say you are married? You're wife could certainly take a couple pictures with your OCN name by it and email them to you.

1. Doesn't have a camera
2. Is out of country as well
3. Computer illiterate
4. AMD Beast is at the dry cleaner's
5. AMD Beast doesn't exist

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Agreed. I think that in one of his many troll posts he said that it wasnt actually done, now its going on ebay. Also, I bet he'd be terribly disappointed to see his quad 580 build isnt the best he can do with 7970s likely to beat it, that is, if he was actually going to do any of this.
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As a side note, the largest pressure drop in your system should be over your radiatior. The shear length of piping and number of 90/180 degree turns will provide the largest pressure drop in your system (or it should). The pressure drop across the waterblock on the evga hydro should be minimal when compared to the rad

Radiators actually cause very little restriction compared to water blocks. The water flow through them has many parallel flow paths.
The pressure drop through newer high performance water blocks is much higher than through a radiator because of the micro-channels, or pin structure, the water is forced through.
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Radiators actually cause very little restriction compared to water blocks. The water flow through them has many parallel flow paths.
The pressure drop through newer high performance water blocks is much higher than through a radiator because of the micro-channels, or pin structure, the water is forced through.

i was basing my statement off the equation used to determine pressure drop in fluid dynamics. most heat exchangers have multiple passes and quite a long distance the fluid must be pushed through, hence why i said the rad would have a larger delta p. but, depending on the number of 180 turns and the total length of pipe, it could provide not as much as a waterblock. in other applications this isnt the case but i honestly havent dove into how pc rad's are made up internally and how many passes they typically feature, so my comment was slightly assumed based off other real world situations ive experienced (non pc related, but fluid dynamic and heat exchanger related).
     
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i was basing my statement off the equation used to determine pressure drop in fluid dynamics. most heat exchangers have multiple passes and quite a long distance the fluid must be pushed through, hence why i said the rad would have a larger delta p. but, depending on the number of 180 turns and the total length of pipe, it could provide not as much as a waterblock. in other applications this isnt the case but i honestly havent dove into how pc rad's are made up internally and how many passes they typically feature, so my comment was slightly assumed based off other real world situations ive experienced (non pc related, but fluid dynamic and heat exchanger related).

I guess it depends on the industry.
I'm in the HVAC/R industry, almost all of the heat exchangers in my industry, regardless of medium, are split into multiple parallel paths to minimize pressure losses.

Most PC WC radiators have 2 tanks on one end, 1 tank on the other end, and a bunch of straight tubes between them.
The water flows from the inlet tank through half the tubes to a crossover tank, then through the other half of the tubes back to the outlet tank.
Pressure losses are minimal due to the multiple parallel flow paths through the tubes between the tanks.
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what would pictures prove anyway i can find tons of pictures on the internet of that build and what the heck would that prove Yanks?
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1500W for two 580s in SLI is an enormous waste. I would say 1000W tops.
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I didn't see an answer to this so figured i would answer.
2 equivalent pumps in Series will double the usable head, but keep the same volumetric flow rate that 1 pump can do.
2 equivalent pumps in Parallel will double the volumetric flow rate, but keep the same head.
for example, say you are using a pump with the following ratings:
Head: 10 feet
Volumetric Flow rate: 100 cfm
Series:
2 pumps in series would net:
Head: 20 feet
Volumetric Flow rate: 100 cfm
3 pumps in series would net:
Head: 30 feet
Volumetric Flow rate: 100 cfm
Parallel:
2 pumps in parallel would net:
Head: 10 feet
Volumetric Flow rate: 200 cfm
3 pumps in parallel would net:
Head: 10 feet
Volumetric Flow rate: 300 cfm
As for which is better, it depends on your system, how many fittings and 90 degree turns you have, the inner diameter of your tubing, etc. Also, are you having too much of a pressure drop accross your entire system or are you wanting to achieve more cooling, or both? If the pressure drop accross the entire system is more than the pump can handle then you would need more head to overcome this pressure drop. if the pressure drop is fine, but you want more cooling, adding an extra pump in parallel would double the amount of water you are pushing over the block, hence giving you a faster speed that the coolant is passing over the block and providing more cooling effect.
As a side note, the largest pressure drop in your system should be over your radiatior. The shear length of piping and number of 90/180 degree turns will provide the largest pressure drop in your system (or it should). The pressure drop across the waterblock on the evga hydro should be minimal when compared to the rad.
edit: just a side note, and i know this wasnt mentioned but figured i would put it here anyways. the max you will be able to cool your CPU/GPU to will be room temperature, as this is what you are using to cool the coolant over the radiator. you can achieve

I see what your saying. I appreciate your info. I went to this link someone sent me on this thread and it explains alot. Read it and tell me if it agrees with what your saying or not?
/2011/04/26/pump-setup-series-vs-parallel/
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what would pictures prove anyway i can find tons of pictures on the internet of that build and what the heck would that prove Yanks?

Everyone here loves pictures of the builds it gives other people ideas for there builds and how gear they dont have or might have never seen might look so post us up some pictures wink.gif. Even the one you said your selling would be nice I have not seen a good quadfire 6990 build in a while post pictures of that please
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what would pictures prove anyway i can find tons of pictures on the internet of that build and what the heck would that prove Yanks?
Add a piece of paper with your ocn id on it. Won't find that online.

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