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Unless it is an emergency I would recommend you wait a month or 2 for the 7xxx series cards.

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gtx570 is the best card among these three.
In most of the games & benchmarks it beats hd6970,it consumes less power,runs cooler as opposed to hd6970!

Just to start off your bolded claim is 100% erroneous. The 6970 uses 26W less at load and 7W less at idle. http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2010/12/15/ati-radeon-hd-6970-review/10

You fail to consider that the AMD 7870 is coming out next month, pretty much a die-shrink of a 6970, but it has a core clock of 950mhz.(vs the ~880mhz stock 6970).. meaning these should OC like beasts. Also consider the 7870 has a TDP of 120W, and it's just plain stupid to consider anything 6000 series or 500 series right now.
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gtx570 is the best card among these three.
In most of the games & benchmarks it beats hd6970,it consumes less power,runs cooler as opposed to hd6970!


Less power and temps? It's about the same in the benchmarks many people say get a 6950 and unlock it and get same performance in the end.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/292?vs=306

Going Nvidia would be ok if you could sell it to a Nvidia fanatic after you figure out its lost rank after the AMD 7970's come. I just look for performance if the new card can top all the old ones I'd upgrade. Secondly im on a crossfire motherboard. I would like a motherboard the can do SLI and Crossfire.

The new 7970 has to edge out the GTX580 its claimed to be 30% faster than the 6970.

I think it will or should be priced like this.
And Nvidia's prices will plumet just like when the 6000 series cards came out!

$290 7950
$385 7970
Edited by M5ilencer - 11/18/11 at 1:47am
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---scratch previous statement---

Found a guy from my town whos selling his XFX HD 6970 for around 220 Euros. I think thats quite a deal and I'm gonna go for it.

As the need arises I can add another and run them in Crossfire.

BTW: The reason I didn't think about adding another GTX 460 is because my Mainboard only supports Crossfire.

Thanks for the help =)
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gtx570 is the best card among these three.
In most of the games & benchmarks it beats hd6970,it consumes less power,runs cooler as opposed to hd6970!


Less power and temps? It's about the same in the benchmarks many people say get a 6950 and unlock it and get same performance in the end.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/292?vs=306

Going Nvidia would be ok if you could sell it to a Nvidia fanatic after you figure out its lost rank after the AMD 7970's come. I just look for performance if the new card can top all the old ones I'd upgrade. Secondly im on a crossfire motherboard. I would like a motherboard the can do SLI and Crossfire.

The new 7970 has to edge out the GTX580 its claimed to be 30% faster than the 6970.

I think it will or should be priced like this.
And Nvidia's prices will plumet just like when the 6000 series cards came out!

$290 7950
$385 7970

Your way off in your new pricing for AMD. In fact if the 7970 takes top spot look for it to assume the GTX 580 current prcing of $480.

I see a AMD 7950 costing the current price of AMD 6970 and the AMD 7970 assuming the price of current top dog GTX 580.

WHY you ask? Because AMD will be the only next gen card ahead of Nvidia for about 4 months. They will be without rival for some time prior. One thing we've learned is top dog charges top prices.

What was going to be Dec/Jan time frame along with AMD to compete is now been pushed back to Mar/Apr. I read an article that said when AMD's cards hit the store shelves there will be HUGE cuts to 500 series pricing to keep them competitive.

This will be the only way Nvidia will be able to save the boat and not by taking the top card spots like they've been used to but to do a role reversal and become the better price/performance cards. Under pricing AMD even from 6000 series cards so it makes it much more lucrative to buy an Nvidia card over a top tier performance AMD 7000 series card that just won't be able to compete with pricing.

Nvidia is planning to offer Exclusive discount sale for this Christmas

A 500 series sales across the board with the most expensive being a GTX 580 for $380 plus add MIR to the top of that! Everything else will see drops down the entire line.

AMD will assume king of the hill performance cards for a while and Nvidia will assume the price/performance roles. Complete switch.

I wonder how many AMD price/performance fans will switch to Nvidia and how many raw performance Nvidia fans switch to AMD?

I'm doing 3D vision which Nvidia does much better so I'm not switching. I'm sure the Eyefinity fans will feel the same way.

This is my take on this new situation unfolding. Anyones AMD pricing guess is just that, a guess and not factual until cards are actually release despite what news we might read unless it's directly from the horses mouth.
     
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Im kinda doubtful that the X-Mas sale reaches Germany. Well I have a week left to think about it, but atm im still strongly leaning towards the 6970
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Im kinda doubtful that the X-Mas sale reaches Germany. Well I have a week left to think about it, but atm im still strongly leaning towards the 6970

For the deal your getting in Germany your best bet is go for the 6970 for 220 Euros. Good deal and hard to pass up. I'd agree. It's a strong card and you'll be happy with the performance. Jump on it.

I was making a point that the 7000 series will not be current pricing. XDR2 VRAM over GDDR5 is more expensive right off the bat. Also AMD has "leased" it so to speak from RAMBUS and they will be getting a cut from AMD on each card sold. Another factor of why I feel it will be more expensive.

Here's another little new bits.

Next Generation Graphic Core of AMD is expected to Launch by 2012

Says an AMD 7990 will be priced $700 HIGHER than current AMD 6990 pricing which means $1400 for an AMD 7990! If this isn't any indication of what kind of pricing will we see I'm not sure what is.

The Tahiti Pro in the article is the AMD 7950 and it said the Tahti Pro will be priced at AMD 6970 pricing. So I'd be correct. AMD is about to assume a new role being priced higher for raw performance. Nothing wrong with that when your holding top cards that are made more expensively.

Here is the link that shows the naming for the AMD 7000 Series.

AMD Radeon HD 7950, HD 7970 Arrives in January 2012 and HD 7990 in March

Liquid chamber cooling with XDR2 VRAM isn't going to be cheap.

Crazy role reversal. AMD higher priced raw performance cards and Nvidia best price/performance cards. Who would have ever thought?
     
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I was making a point that the 7000 series will not be current pricing. XDR2 VRAM over GDDR5 is more expensive right off the bat. Also AMD has "leased" it so to speak from RAMBUS and they will be getting a cut from AMD on each card sold. Another factor of why I feel it will be more expensive.
Here's another little new bits.
Next Generation Graphic Core of AMD is expected to Launch by 2012
Says an AMD 7990 will be priced $700 HIGHER than current AMD 6990 pricing which means $1400 for an AMD 7990! If this isn't any indication of what kind of pricing will we see I'm not sure what is.
The Tahiti Pro in the article is the AMD 7950 and it said the Tahti Pro will be priced at AMD 6970 pricing. So I'd be correct. AMD is about to assume a new role being priced higher for raw performance. Nothing wrong with that when your holding top cards that are made more expensively.
Here is the link that shows the naming for the AMD 7000 Series.
AMD Radeon HD 7950, HD 7970 Arrives in January 2012 and HD 7990 in March
Liquid chamber cooling with XDR2 VRAM isn't going to be cheap.
Crazy role reversal. AMD higher priced raw performance cards and Nvidia best price/performance cards. Who would have ever thought?

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The source speaks for itself. Whether you buy into all the info is up to you. The are dead on about the XDR2 VRAM and liquid chamber cooling. So I'd assume the AMD presentation they reviewed was were they got thier pricing info as well.
     
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I think spending over $450 for the best Single GPU or over $725 for the best Dual GPU card is ridiculous. I just want AMD to humiliate Nvidia for raising prices on GPU'S as they are trying to set a new standard with rip off prices that spreads down to AMD.
Edited by M5ilencer - 11/18/11 at 6:19pm
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