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waddup guys, so ive been using the h100 since release date. Unfortunatley it cant keep up any more frown.gif i've gotten some loop advice from one of my friends and i just want a second opinion in terms of parts.

I def want to get a motherboard block (im assuming NB issue has plagued me with the CHIV). so since im buying gpu blocks for my three cards, i know price is going to be though the roof :O.

newhooo parts are as followed

Pump: 2x swiftech 655 or mcp35x?

rad: 2x XSPC rx360

cpu block: swiftech apogee HD

gpu blocks: Heatkiller blocks or EK blocks?

mobo block: full EK CHIV block, nickel

res: I have no clue on this? it seems the swiftech one is sold out err where frown.gif

and i am completely aware im gonna need a new case... suggestions?

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Cases - Haf X, Xigmatek Elysium, or Corsair 800D

Pumps - 35x performs better, 655 is quieter, your choice

CPU block - Look into the Raystorm its a great block

GPU blocks - Both are good but EK had the whole nickel plating fiasco that some haven't forgotten, the HK blocks have never had anything hurt their reputation.

Res - Personal preference, either an XSPC bay(some even have 355/655 pump mounts built in), or cylinder ones like the EK multioption or Phobya Balancer for the bling.
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XSPC RX series is the right call, awesome radiators! If your running only one pump consider one Swiftech MCP35X, my opinion go for dual Laing DDC 3.25 pumps (MCP35X is DDC 3.25 on steroids!) in case one pump fails you've got yourself insurance and redundancy. You can run with one live pump and one dead pump and still have enough flow rates to go around until you replace the pump that died, with only one pump if it fails say goodby to your computer until you get a replacement. I would stay clear of EK blocks for now, I found out a week ago that I was the unfortunate fellow to have nickle shavings all throughout my loop! I won't be buying anything from them until EK earns my trust back, we see in several years but for now I have the power to hurt them where it counts, their wallet! Screw EKWB!!
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man sorry to hear bout that systemlord redface.gif ... so wud a dual 360 dual mcp35x be sufficient to dissipitate heat from 3gpus, cpu and mobo block??

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man sorry to hear bout that systemlord redface.gif ... so wud a dual 360 dual mcp35x be sufficient to dissipitate heat from 3gpus, cpu and mobo block??
thanks.

First, let me say that I had never built my own computer before, much less watercooled. So everything you hear from me will be my first experience and I have nothing to compare it to. I went out on a limb and just decided I should build this thing so I can say I had done it. And I did.

@systemlord: That pretty much sucks. I've had my EK waterblocks for my dual GTX580s for 8 months now and I have had no issues whatsoever. Of course, I blinged them out with the backplate as well - which I actually highly suggest not only for the aesthetics but because they really help to prevent dust from landing on the cards while also supporting them well. I don't think I would get anything other than EK blocks tbh. Just one of those feelings of loyalty to a well-built, solid, functional product. My temps are rock bottom as well.

As for a reservoir, I got an EK cylindrical reservoir. Next time, I guarantee you I will get a bay mounted reservoir. I have never had more issues in my life. Nothing leaks or anything, but finding a way to mount it inside of my case without getting in the way and making sure it wouldn't fall off was the biggest project of my life.

To address your pump, I got an MCP35x and I couldn't be happier. I have a loop that basically goes up probably an entire foot into a ThermoChill 3x120mm radiator, across the radiator, over onto the other side of my case into another ThermoChill 3x120mm radiator, down into my EK CPU block about 6 inches below, then down into my first EK GPU WB another 6 inches down, the second GPU, then back through the other side of my case and back into the bottom of the reservoir another foot across. If you look at my case, it's quite large and I needed a lot of tubing to get this job done. My single MCP35x pumps the whole loop perfectly fine and has been going strong for 8 months. I have another one in there as well as a backup using a dual mount thing (I forget the name, lol). I will say this though just to help you out - when I plugged them both in at the same time, it was incredibly loud. Not only the pumps were loud, but even louder was the water swooshing through the tube. The reservoir looked like a geyser too. Two pumps might be too much to run at once, and one pump will most likely get the water through your tube fine, especially if you have selected the correct OD/ID tubing combination.

What's funny is that I looked at the 655 as well because I wanted perfection and the absolute best, but I remember reading diagrams and charts from people smarter than me that showed me the MCP35x was much more worth the money - and I couldn't be happier! Oh, and I don't ever hear it.

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I did not get the XSPC radiators so I can't comment on them. I like my radiators now though. Heavy friggen duty, that's for sure. If it's any consolation, my temps idle around 15C for CPU and 28 for my GPUs. On load (not benchmark load, Black Ops highest graphics load) I typically never see my GPU get higher than 45C. In normal games in high graphics, such as HoN, it won't go past 38. When I benchmarked, they didn't get higher than 50. Then again, I have 14 fans so that might contribute. ^_^

As for a case, I would probably recommend the Corsair 800D. It appears to be the best production modifiable consumer case on the market. However, of course I would tell you just to check out Case Labs because their build quality is unmatched - it just may be a little big for you. And that's what she said. wink.gif

Once again for CPU block, I couldn't be happier with the EK. I think they're aesthetically appealing and absolutely performing in terms of temperatures and pressure.

I hope this helps! Good luck! biggrin.gif
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man sorry to hear bout that systemlord redface.gif ... so wud a dual 360 dual mcp35x be sufficient to dissipitate heat from 3gpus, cpu and mobo block??
thanks.

Most definitely, dual MCP35X and dual 360 rads. The most important factor is your fan selection, remember all of those fan specs change once you actually mount them to you rads. This is where the Gentle Typhoons shines, tons of static pressure to through around! It seems as though most experiencing the nickle plating issues are using silver kill coils so not everyone with be effected. The EK EN products do offer a higher quality nickle plating process even for the user's of silver coils, but the trade off is a loss of bling.

The one thing that makes EKWB so popular is the blocks not only look gorgeous they have excellent thermal performance while at the same time have the highest flow rates of most blocks. Make sure when you buy that you receive the EN version of the block! If nobody had told me of this plating issue I would not have known about it till my Ivy Bridge build, then the you know what would have hit the fans along with my blood pressure.
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ayy guys thanks for the input! and systemlord i def got the fans on lock down, i currently have AP-15's in push pull, they push massive air. but ya going to start ordering the key components this week end smile.gif. and as far as fittings go, bitspower compression fittings still the way to go now a days?
    
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ayy guys thanks for the input! and systemlord i def got the fans on lock down, i currently have AP-15's in push pull, they push massive air. but ya going to start ordering the key components this week end smile.gif. and as far as fittings go, bitspower compression fittings still the way to go now a days?

Yea bitspower compressions are still good. Or you could do the regular 1/2 barbs with 7/16ID tubing for an extra tight fit. Make sure to take pics and do a work log!
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Don't tell me you don't want EK waterblocks. wink.gif

http://www.overclock.net/t/938294/buildlog-evga-superclocked-gtx-580-full-ek-installation-pics

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Doesn't get prettier than that I don't think. ^_^

http://www.overclock.net/t/939431/build-log-x1/20

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With Bitspower fittings - yes, still the best!

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*NOTE: See the way the Bitspower fittings are positioned on the 580 WB connector there? It took me about a day, much reluctance, and a very annoyed me to realize that it was not the optimal position for those. When I first turned on my computer, my GPUs got up to 100 and the computer shut down during benchmarking. I had to drain the loop, move my tubing and fittings because the water wasn't going into the blocks, it was simply flowing straight through. Man was I mad...

To be honest, if I had the choice, I would go back and start my build all over again and fine tune everything this time. This means learning how to solder so I wouldn't have the wires of 14 fans hanging around (which collect dust incredibly good - especially with MDPC sleeving), using a bay mounted reservoir, dust filters (or at least shutting my computer off during the day when I'm not using it), and not rushing everything simply because I wanted to use it as fast as possible.

It still took me a good few days to get it up and running, though.

I honestly don't think you'll be disappointed with anything you say you want, except for the XSPC radiators of which I have no experience. Everything else is fantastic but like I said, be careful with dual pumps unless the second is a backup - you may just not need that much firepower.
Edited by xyeLz - 11/18/11 at 6:05am
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