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You beat me to it on the 1155 vs 1156 cooling compatibility.
You're probably correct in that two 560s will out-perform a 580. The margins between 570s and 580s is a bit slimmer than I expected in BF3, but in other games it can vary. (I was specifically interested in the 1080p benchmarks.)
The only down-side to SLI is that you are reliant on the developers to keep on track with updating SLI profiles as new games come out. With a good SLI profile, you get awesome results. With a poor or non-existent profile you get poor improvements or possibly even detrimental aspects of the performance. Now, a game as big as BF3 with its new engine, pushing the ragged edge of DX11 is going to get a huge amount of attention from NVIDIA developers, so it's not a surprise at all that the NVIDIA (And AMD Radeon) cards perform extremely well in SLI (or Crossfire) mode on BF3.
The performance gains on other games which are not as popular are not as noticeable. Two 560s is definitely a valid alternative to a single 580 and can even be better than a single 580, I'd have to agree. I personally only wanted a single card for noise, heat, and power consumption reasons. I went with a 580 based on that.


I just wanted to suggest a better performing solution than a 580 although i do agree on the issues that noise,heat and power consumption might might produce as i agree to all other points u mentioned regarding SLI . If i was in your position probably i would go for a single 580 also really nice reasoning behind your choice and nice explaination also.
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post #52 of 90
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I think I'll just stick with 1 GTX 580
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post #53 of 90
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The ONLY thing I'm not 100% sure about at the moment is the MOBO. I think I have every other thing decided on for sure though.
I have this so far as the MOBO but I honestly know nothing when it comes to motherboards.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131730
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Also i would like to give you some info regarding the choice of keeping ur existing CPU instead of buying 2500k. It is about CPU scaling at this specific game.

The following link is from Tomshardware Battlefield 3 Performance: 30+ Graphics Cards, Benchmarked.(http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/battlefield-3-graphics-performance,3063.html

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Clearly the difference is not so big meaning you can really save some money and keep your old CPU and Mobo and put that money for better use for ur new rig.
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post #55 of 90
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The ONLY thing I'm not 100% sure about at the moment is the MOBO. I think I have every other thing decided on for sure though.
I have this so far as the MOBO but I honestly know nothing when it comes to motherboards.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131730

Can you plz tell me one good reason that you want to buy a z68 instead of p67 mobo since you are buying a descrete graphic card?
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post #56 of 90
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Also i would like to give you some info regarding the choice of keeping ur existing CPU instead of buying 2500k. It is about CPU scaling at this specific game.
The following link is from Tomshardware Battlefield 3 Performance: 30+ Graphics Cards, Benchmarked.(http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/battlefield-3-graphics-performance,3063.html
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Clearly the difference is not so big meaning you can really save some money and keep your old CPU and Mobo and put that money for better use for ur new rig.
Well, my current mobo is only Sata 2 and I think it needs to be Sata 3 in order to use my SSD. I COULD keep my current CPU but I feel like I would rather just build a new rig and use this new system for future upgrades if needed.
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Can you plz tell me one good reason that you want to buy a z68 instead of p67 mobo since you are buying a descrete graphic card?
I have no clue about MOBOs so I just added that one to my cart because somebody else recommended it.
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post #57 of 90
Sata 6Gb/s for ssD is a good reason to want to change mainboard indeed:)

But still why Z68 instead of P67?
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post #58 of 90
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Originally Posted by Zanklont View Post

Can you plz tell me one good reason that you want to buy a z68 instead of p67 mobo since you are buying a descrete graphic card?
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Originally Posted by Zanklont View Post

Sata 6Gb/s for ssD is a good reason to want to change mainboard indeed:)
But still why Z68 instead of P67?

I don't know. IDK what motherboard to get.
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post #59 of 90
P67
This chipset variant, which was available alongside H67 at the launch of the Sandy Bridge platform, does not support the use of integrated graphics(Using the CPU's intergrated graphics INSTEAD of a descrete graphic card) – but in trade supports the ability to run two dedicated video cards (for Crossfire or SLI, if motherboard manufacturers license those technologies). It also is capable of being overclocked, and that combination of features have made it popular for gamers and other demanding users.


Z68
The Z68 chipset is a late arrival, but combines the performance-oriented features of P67 with the onboard graphics options of H67. This opens up the option for enthusiasts who want to have a powerful video card while also being able to access features of the on-chip Intel HD graphics, like Quick Sync, without needing multiple monitors. However, using both of those together requires third-party software from LucidLogix – which isn’t ideal, as it means depending on yet another layer of complication in order to access all the features of the hardware. Quick Sync in particular is also only supported by a few video transcoding programs, so unless you use software that is designed to work with it then there would be no need for Z68 over P67.

If you are a gamer, then just jump for the P67 – I would also recommend this for heavy video editing and other graphics intensive work. You will likely be buying a separate graphics card anyway, and being able to OC your processor is a nice benefit as well. Just be sure to get the K series processor.

For users that fall somewhere in the middle or want the flexibility to add a graphics card later or who want to test out the onboard graphics without being stuck with their decision, then the Z68 seems like the obvious choice. The boards will likely come at something of a price premium (my personal guess) but it might not be enough to deter you, and will give you the peace of mind that you have the flexibility that you want to switch from integrated graphics to dedicated graphics.

There you have it! Hope that helps.
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post #60 of 90
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So is there anything wrong with the MOBO I have now (not the mobo in my sig)? Does anyone else suggest something better.
Edited by SharpShoot3r07 - 11/17/11 at 7:01pm
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