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Hi, guys. As I said, I am new to this forum. So I posted my build post in somewhere else. but I just found this build logs. It seems the best place for my post. I will post again and I am sorry if you see this post twice. :-)


Hi, I am so glad I found this place! I am already reading tons of info now. But one question: where can I post a thread about building up a new computer? I am a completely new to this field, this will be my first desktop. I only owned a 13 macbook pro. The hardware are too ***... Guys! come and give me suggestions! I will just post some info here, once I found the right place to post. I will post to the right place.

1. Purpose of computer

mainly gaming, vedio editing, photoshop. maybe will have a little scientific calculation (molecule orbital, configuration calculation)

2. Budget: $1000

3. List which parts you have: (Updated as people suggesting)
a. CPU: needed (debating on i5 2500K vs i7 2600k, or maybe the versions without K)
a. CPU: i5 2500K
b. Mobo: needed (3-4 PCI, 4 for ram? when will four channel ram mobo come out?)
b. Mobo: asus p8z68 v pro (I don't know whether it is this one people talked about, m-pro? deluxe? v-pro?)
c. video card: already have 6970 2gb ($220)
d. Hard drive: needed (debating on 120GB SSD vs 2 7200 rpm hard drive raid, also have little knowledge about ssd, looks like crucial m4 would be the best bet)
d. Hard drive: 120 gb m4 ssd for boot and app. 1 TB WD black for storage.
e. Ram: needed (8gb or 16gb, how big the difference between 1600 and 1866 and 2000+? also difference between 1.25v 1.35v 1.5v 1.65v?)
e. Ram: still don't know the voltage problem (8gb, how big the difference between 1600 and 1866 and 2000+? also difference between 1.25v 1.35v 1.5v 1.65v?) How about this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?SID=u1276453t3571608f9fp0dd0c0s701&AID=10440897&PID=1225267&Item=N82E16820231456&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-cables-_-na-_-na
f. power supply: needed (I don't know how much power I need)
f. power supply: 1000W as I will OC and crossfire but don't know which one is good temporarily (I don't know how much power I need)
g. Case: needed
g. Case: 690 II advanced (what's the difference between mid tower and full tower)
h: Optical drive (DVD/BluRay, etc): needed (but i don't think this is necessary)
i: monitor: have the asus 23 inch led 2ms one

4. Will you be overclocking? yes and i will also crossfire 6970 2gb. what else do I need if i want to OC to 4.5+


I have fry's and micro center in a 30 mins drive distance. which one to go on BF? will the price better there than newegg?

I have a 2tb external hard drive. will get a usb 3.0tb one in the future (price don't needed to be include in the $1000)

If I am going to buy a hard drive, will 3gb/s or 6gb/s matter? because i can get an internal hard drive with 3gb/s "free" and most of external hard drive "free" (means buy it without paying money from my pocket :-) ) basically anything from staples... but can't do a lot of them... but if 6gb/s is necessary i will pay it myself to buy it somewhere else.

Do I need cpu fans? I think I probably need water cooler now since I decided to OC.

raid hdd vs single ssd? will raid ssd to get noticeable difference on launching system and applications?

If i install the photoshop on ssd, is there a difference between open the image on ssd and image on hdd?


Thanks! guys!

BTW, the game I will play is WoW. But I think I will try BF3 later. Is there a sticky talking out OC in very detail, since I heard about WoW like high frequency cup...
Edited by czhouchem - 11/17/11 at 7:43pm
post #2 of 7
Wow lots of questions...here we go!
P8Z68 V-Pro good enough, get this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145345, and this PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139034. Now the difference between mid tower and full tower is SIZE! That's generally it, mid tower is smaller than full tower, and full tower is much bigger. Get a regular DVD burner drive if youre not going to watch blu-ray. It doesn't matter if you get 3gb/s or 6gb/s HDD, as HDDs can't reach that speed, so if you can get a 3gb/s free, then go for it (HDD prices are highway robbery these days!) Yes you ALWAYS Need a cpu cooler/fan or your cpu will basically poop out on your from heat. I recoomend a thermatake frio, but a hyper 212+ EVO also good choice (i have hyper 212+, idle temps 30C, load temps about 50-60C. all of this on 4.5 GHz). If you install photoshop on SSD, photoshop will LOAD faster, but you have to install the picture on the SSD to make the picture load faster.
Computer 1
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5 2500K ASUS P8Z77-V PRO EVGA GTX 770 ACX Corsair 2 x 4GB DDR3 1600MHz 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Samsung 840 Evo 250GB Western Digital Blue 1TB Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO Windows 8.1 Pro x64 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
ASUS VS248H-P Cooler Master Quickfire Rapid MX Blue Corsair AX650 Fractal Design Define R4 
MouseMouse PadAudioAudio
Logitech G502 YuHua Gaming Mouse Pad Logitech Z323 Sennheiser HD 558 
Audio
Creative Soundblaster Z 
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Computer 1
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5 2500K ASUS P8Z77-V PRO EVGA GTX 770 ACX Corsair 2 x 4GB DDR3 1600MHz 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Samsung 840 Evo 250GB Western Digital Blue 1TB Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO Windows 8.1 Pro x64 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
ASUS VS248H-P Cooler Master Quickfire Rapid MX Blue Corsair AX650 Fractal Design Define R4 
MouseMouse PadAudioAudio
Logitech G502 YuHua Gaming Mouse Pad Logitech Z323 Sennheiser HD 558 
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Creative Soundblaster Z 
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Don't need water for overclocking. High overclocks like 4.7ghz+ you should probably use a high end one like thermalright silver arrow or noctua nh-d14. Low overclocks, around 4.2 you only need 212+ or 212 evo
aslo, sandy like 1.5v ram. Stick to vengence, ripjaws, sniper, >>dominator<<(overpriced) and maybe mushkin silve/blackline
basically corsair, g skill, mushkin. Don;t pass 1.5v ram though
stick with 1600 mhz. its cheaper and going past it is unreasonable for all but high end builds
PSU for most SLI builds (except maybe 570/580 sli) you only need a 850w psu, maybe even 750w. Each GPU takes about 200w of power i think(not sure) and a computer with 1 GPU takes about 500w of power.
dam i edit a lot
The RAM you have is fine, but ONLY if you ned 16 gb. If not, get 8 gb ripjaws/vengence
Edited by FyreBurn - 11/17/11 at 10:20pm
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As I reading through the forum, I just found another series modo, P67. It is older but cheaper. The most important is lots of people say what Z68 had was you can use GPU from your CPU, which is the function I don't need since I am going for a independent GPU, right? Will I go wrong with P67, like will it be harder to OC? If it's a good choice which model should I go after (OC & Crossfire)?
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P67 is older but doesn't really differ much from z68, main feature of z68 is that it has SSD caching, dedicated and integrated graphics support, and something else...anyways i suggest z68 since you SSD and you can use Z68's caching feature for SSDs. Overclocking on both won't make a difference. Overclock depends on your cpu, motherboard, and power supply (mainly)
Computer 1
(17 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5 2500K ASUS P8Z77-V PRO EVGA GTX 770 ACX Corsair 2 x 4GB DDR3 1600MHz 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Samsung 840 Evo 250GB Western Digital Blue 1TB Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO Windows 8.1 Pro x64 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
ASUS VS248H-P Cooler Master Quickfire Rapid MX Blue Corsair AX650 Fractal Design Define R4 
MouseMouse PadAudioAudio
Logitech G502 YuHua Gaming Mouse Pad Logitech Z323 Sennheiser HD 558 
Audio
Creative Soundblaster Z 
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Computer 1
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5 2500K ASUS P8Z77-V PRO EVGA GTX 770 ACX Corsair 2 x 4GB DDR3 1600MHz 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Samsung 840 Evo 250GB Western Digital Blue 1TB Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO Windows 8.1 Pro x64 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
ASUS VS248H-P Cooler Master Quickfire Rapid MX Blue Corsair AX650 Fractal Design Define R4 
MouseMouse PadAudioAudio
Logitech G502 YuHua Gaming Mouse Pad Logitech Z323 Sennheiser HD 558 
Audio
Creative Soundblaster Z 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Osea23 View Post

P67 is older but doesn't really differ much from z68, main feature of z68 is that it has SSD caching, dedicated and integrated graphics support, and something else...anyways i suggest z68 since you SSD and you can use Z68's caching feature for SSDs. Overclocking on both won't make a difference. Overclock depends on your cpu, motherboard, and power supply (mainly)

I think I will check out the price before deciding. I think I will manually divide SSD and HDD, since the hybrid thing can't catch up with SSD along I guess.

I just learned a new terms of timing... Arrhh.. I don't know what does it mean and what it will affect. Could explain a little bit? The model number are too similar. Which one serves me best? is it the bigger the better?
post #7 of 7
The RAM speed doesn't matter too much as there isn't really a real world performance boost. Probably some 1600 will be fine, as you go higher it gets much more expensive and the RAM should be around 1.5v areaish for Sandybridge (I believe from 1.45-1.65 but I'm not to sure) And just with the 1600mhz thing with RAM timings play a very small real world performance thing. If you have uber amounts of money to spend then maybe but if your trying to stay within a budget something like the cheapest 1600 RAM from a good brand would be fine.
Also lower timings are better so if you see something with lower timings for the same price and still a good brand, could go for that though it ISN'T much of a difference.
    
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i5 2500k Asus P8P67 XFX HD 6950 G.Skill 2x4GB 
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