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Hi guys, I'm building a new computer which will be used for general work, heavy gaming, engineering design (hence the 16GB of RAM) and the occasional video editing and audio editing. I need this computer to last for a few years. I'm on a budget and I'd like to stick around the $1800 mark (I'm in Australia, so please take this into mind; prices are > than the US). I've researched and this is the build I've come up with. I'm open to any suggestions and incompatibilities you may find. Here is what I plan on:


$105.60 Two of: 8GB (4GBx2) 1600 G.Skill Ripjaws-X
$38.00 Two of: Samsung SH-S223F
$92.00 Samsung 1 TB HDD
$205.00 Asus P8Z68-V-PRO
$390.00 Two of: Gigabyte GTX560
$19.00 NZXT Fan Rifle Bearing 14cm Fan
$50.00 Two of: NZXT Fan Rifle Bearing 20cm Fan (No LED)
$89.00 Noctua NH-D14
$159.00 Silverstone Strider Plus 850W ST85F-P
$169.00 NZXT Phantom Black
$110.00 OCZ SSD 60G Solid 3
$332.00 Intel Core i7-2600K

Total: $1823.60

I don't require a mouse, keyboard, monitor (this runs at 1920 x 1080) or any other peripherals. I would prefer to stick with nVidia, as I have had multiple bad experiences with ATI. I will be overclocking to as high as possible.

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You did your homework! That looks to be a great build the only thing I might change is the two 560's for a single 580 because it will last longer in terms of future upgrading and it is almost faster than two 560's. Good luck and post some pics.
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Lord don't get the crappy silverstone. I reccomend AX850, TX850, or HX850 from Corsair, way better than silverstone's. Do you REALLY need a NHD14? I don't think you'll require one unless you go extreme overclock (over 5.5GHz), Thermaltake Frio will do. Why not go for 560ti's instead of 560s? Those 560s are practically a 460 that's been overclocked.
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850w isn't needed for 2x 560's. you only need 750
get the Ti version
and i dont think you need so many fans.
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I have beef with your GPU and SSD choice.

Getting a 60GB Vertex 3 is ~ $20 more than the Solid 3

20k IOPS vs 60k IOPS (4kb random write) surely is worth the $20?

For almost $400, getting 2x GTX560s is kind of a shame. If you were going 2x 560 Ti it'd be better

You can get a good custom cooled GTX570 for $400 and then get another one later on for SLI.
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Lord don't get the crappy silverstone. I reccomend AX850, TX850, or HX850 from Corsair, way better than silverstone's. Do you REALLY need a NHD14? I don't think you'll require one unless you go extreme overclock (over 5.5GHz), Thermaltake Frio will do. Why not go for 560ti's instead of 560s? Those 560s are practically a 460 that's been overclocked.

DAMM barely any 2600ks can go beyond around 5.2 GHz. Extreme overclocking is about 5 GHz on sandy. Just stick with the nh-d14. Great cooler.
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You did your homework! That looks to be a great build the only thing I might change is the two 560's for a single 580 because it will last longer in terms of future upgrading and it is almost faster than two 560's. Good luck and post some pics.

Thanks, the only problem is that here in Australia, a GTX580 is $500 minimum, which slaps on another $110 I just don't have.
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Lord don't get the crappy silverstone. I reccomend AX850, TX850, or HX850 from Corsair, way better than silverstone's. Do you REALLY need a NHD14? I don't think you'll require one unless you go extreme overclock (over 5.5GHz), Thermaltake Frio will do. Why not go for 560ti's instead of 560s? Those 560s are practically a 460 that's been overclocked.

I wish I could. The Corsairs start at ~$220 here, and that's another $50 I just don't seem to have extra
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850w isn't needed for 2x 560's. you only need 750
get the Ti version
and i dont think you need so many fans.

I would get Tis, but they start at $250ea, which adds $100. Dropping down the wattage on the PSU will only save me ~$20 or so.
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I have beef with your GPU and SSD choice.
Getting a 60GB Vertex 3 is ~ $20 more than the Solid 3
20k IOPS vs 60k IOPS (4kb random write) surely is worth the $20?
For almost $400, getting 2x GTX560s is kind of a shame. If you were going 2x 560 Ti it'd be better
You can get a good custom cooled GTX570 for $400 and then get another one later on for SLI.

I'm more than likely going to change it to a Vertex. It's $139, so I might just be able to squeeze some money off another component somewhere. Hopefully prices drop, as they've been sky-rocketing ever since I started thinking about this build. All prices have gone up by about 10% on each component, and even more so the HDD, due to the shortage as Thailand flooded. I didn't think I'd be able to pull out another $400 before the 600 series comes out and they stop selling the 500s, so that's why I have the two 560s.

Thanks, guys.
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Hey there hittingray, I am building a computer soon as well (purchasing on Saturday and I am from Australia)! Let me take a guess, your going to be shopping at www.pccasegear.com ?

Ok first off, I'll start with CPU.

CPU - Intel Core i5 2500K (you honestly don't need to spend the extra ~$100 for the 2600k, only if you are using lots of applications at once, 2500k is much better for gaming at the price and you will not notice a difference between the 2600k and the 2500k) $225
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=16531

CPU cooler - CoolerMaster Hyper 212 EVO CPU Cooler (if you don't plan on going over 4.5GHz then this is the best cooler for the money, you don't need a $80+ CPU cooler and anything over 4.5GHz will not give you a big performance bost in gaming) $39
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=18670

GPU - MSI GeForce GTX 580 Twin Frozr II Overclocked (now, I don't know if I can stress enough about this, but I would seriously consider getting this over two 560's in SLI, you will have great FPS with a 580, more VRAM which is needed in games like BF3, it uses less power, less heat and less noise PLEASE CONSIDER also look at this http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/battlefield-3-graphics-performance,3063-7.html ) $549
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=16738

Motherboard - ASRock Z68 Extreme4 Gen3 Motherboard (great motherboard for the price and no real difference from what you wanted) $189
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=18041

RAM - Corsair Vengeance CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 (no noticeable difference than what you wanted and you also save over $30) $69
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=16437

HDD - 3.5" Western Digital 1TB (cheapest price in Australia and a good drive) $65
http://9289.com.au/3-5-western-digital-1tb-wd10ears-sata-ii-intelipower-64mb-cache-wd10ears/

SSD - Corsair Force Series 3 60GB SSD (trust me, you would want this one over the OCZ, recently OCZ have been having problems with their SSD's and the Force 3 is also faster) $129
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=18639

Optical drive - Samsung SH-222AB SATA DVDRW Drive (x2) $44
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=17348

Case - NZXT Phantom USB 3.0 Case Black (you could get a better case but it really comes down to personal preference) $185
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=15089

Fan 140mm - Scythe 140mm Slipstream 1700rpm Fan (better than the NZXT 14cm fan and also cheaper and quitter) $16
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=16508

Fan 200mm - NZXT 200mm Rifle Bearing Fan (x2) $50
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=15734

PSU - Silverstone Strider Plus 750W ST75F-P (750W will be plenty for a GTX 580, the the average PC with a GTX 580 installed will use ~ 600-650W of power) $145
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=15350

Total cost is $1705 which saves you over $100 and this will perform better.

Good luck and I hope your build comes together nicely.

-Shaq
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Hey there hittingray, I am building a computer soon as well (purchasing on Saturday and I am from Australia)! Let me take a guess, your going to be shopping at www.pccasegear.com ?
Ok first off, I'll start with CPU.
CPU - Intel Core i5 2500K (you honestly don't need to spend the extra ~$100 for the 2600k, only if you are using lots of applications at once, 2500k is much better for gaming at the price and you will not notice a difference between the 2600k and the 2500k) $225
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=16531
CPU cooler - CoolerMaster Hyper 212 EVO CPU Cooler (if you don't plan on going over 4.5GHz then this is the best cooler for the money, you don't need a $80+ CPU cooler and anything over 4.5GHz will not give you a big performance bost in gaming) $39
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=18670
GPU - MSI GeForce GTX 580 Twin Frozr II Overclocked (now, I don't know if I can stress enough about this, but I would seriously consider getting this over two 560's in SLI, you will have great FPS with a 580, more VRAM which is needed in games like BF3, it uses less power, less heat and less noise PLEASE CONSIDER also look at this http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/battlefield-3-graphics-performance,3063-7.html ) $549
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=16738
Motherboard - ASRock Z68 Extreme4 Gen3 Motherboard (great motherboard for the price and no real difference from what you wanted) $189
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=18041
RAM - Corsair Vengeance CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 (no noticeable difference than what you wanted and you also save over $30) $69
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=16437
HDD - 3.5" Western Digital 1TB (cheapest price in Australia and a good drive) $65
http://9289.com.au/3-5-western-digital-1tb-wd10ears-sata-ii-intelipower-64mb-cache-wd10ears/
SSD - Corsair Force Series 3 60GB SSD (trust me, you would want this one over the OCZ, recently OCZ have been having problems with their SSD's and the Force 3 is also faster) $129
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=18639
Optical drive - Samsung SH-222AB SATA DVDRW Drive (x2) $44
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=17348
Case - NZXT Phantom USB 3.0 Case Black (you could get a better case but it really comes down to personal preference) $185
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=15089
Fan 140mm - Scythe 140mm Slipstream 1700rpm Fan (better than the NZXT 14cm fan and also cheaper and quitter) $16
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=16508
Fan 200mm - NZXT 200mm Rifle Bearing Fan (x2) $50
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=15734
PSU - Silverstone Strider Plus 750W ST75F-P (750W will be plenty for a GTX 580, the the average PC with a GTX 580 installed will use ~ 600-650W of power) $145
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=15350
Total cost is $1705 which saves you over $100 and this will perform better.
Good luck and I hope your build comes together nicely.
-Shaq

Yes, I will be shopping at PCCG, but also another number of stores.

CPU You may have missed it, but I'm also going to be doing CAD on this rig, and that, is highly multithreaded work, so the 2600K will be of benefit to me.
CPU Cooler I'm going to OC as high as possible. May or may not break 4.5 GHz, hopefully I do, though.
GPU As mentioned above, I have no money. If not, I probably would.
Motherboard The ASRock is a few USB ports short of what I need. Already had a look at it.
RAM CAD can also take up huge amounts of RAM, hence the 16 GB
HDD I may just take that. Hopefully they don't rise the price like all the other companies have, due to the flooding in Thailand.
Optical Already have ones listed there that are very similar.
140mm Fan Ok, thanks. I may take that or a Noctua.
PSU 750W is the recommended for the set up I currently have now, but a little futureproofing doesn't hurt, eh?
    
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Yes, I will be shopping at PCCG, but also another number of stores.
CPU You may have missed it, but I'm also going to be doing CAD on this rig, and that, is highly multithreaded work, so the 2600K will be of benefit to me.
CPU Cooler I'm going to OC as high as possible. May or may not break 4.5 GHz, hopefully I do, though.
GPU As mentioned above, I have no money. If not, I probably would.
Motherboard The ASRock is a few USB ports short of what I need. Already had a look at it.
RAM CAD can also take up huge amounts of RAM, hence the 16 GB
HDD I may just take that. Hopefully they don't rise the price like all the other companies have, due to the flooding in Thailand.
Optical Already have ones listed there that are very similar.
140mm Fan Ok, thanks. I may take that or a Noctua.
PSU 750W is the recommended for the set up I currently have now, but a little futureproofing doesn't hurt, eh?

Ok then.

Either way, your build will be a superb work of art wink.gif

I hope you enjoy your new build and I hope everything goes well. Also with the HDD, I would purchase it ASAP because it is likely they will run out and their prices might go up.

-Shaq
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