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Originally Posted by Eduardv View Post

If an object continues to lose Mass and energy while traveling at higher speed,it seems that there wil be a limit in linear space/time travelling.
If the humanity wants to travel to other worlds,we should start investing more in the concept of generating wormholes in space.


Well Neutrinos hardly ever interact with Matter they move trough the earth all the time, the sun generates em all the time but earth is hardly affected by em.

Now u can suggest that those Particales know a shortcut trough the universe wich makes em travel faster than light, well maybe thats where we have to search u never know.

Also what is amazing there have been Models wich predicted Particals that move faster than light in their natural state called Tachyon, they where to belived they allways travel faster than light.

This could fix some maths and offer alot new possibilities.
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The plot thickens, this is a pretty exciting prospect.
    
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Do it another 10 or so times just to be sure biggrin.gif
    
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I think the math behind it says that mass = energy and in order to go faster than light it would need more energy than mass so it simply can't happen.

i didnt mean that it was reaching the speed of light. i meant a particle that was already at or past the speed of light
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Originally Posted by kremtok View Post

Here's the report that I was referencing: http://www.overclock.net/t/1142182/tr-faster-than-light-neutrino-puzzle-claimed-solved-by-special-relativity

Um, plenty of ppl argued CERN was wrong after they published their results. Unfortunately, all of them either:
1. Used special relativity to prove them wrong (which is kinda dumb, since whole point of this is that it's demonstrating relativity to be incorrect)
2. Assuming CERN made a calibration or other error.

To date, CERN has addressed every major critique and demonstrated their results to be valid.
Bear in mind CERN wasn't the first to observe this, FERMILABS did so first, but it was within their margin of error so they discounted it.

A highly plausible reason for this behavior utilizes String/M-theory and states either:
1. Particles are hopping through the other dimensions so they have a smaller distance to travel.
2. Speed of light is not the same in other dimensions.

A third possibility is that this is the first experimental evidence of the long held theory that subatomic particles do not obey relativity. In fact, quantum mechanics and relativity are inherently contradictory in several points and this could be evidence that that relativity only applies to particles > planck's constant in size.

This doesn't explain WHY they are traveling faster than light, but the fact that they CAN, isn't that big a deal since we've known for a long time that for quantum mechanics to work:
1. Subatomic particles must in fact be able to travel over an infinite number of paths simultaneously.
2. Subatomic particles are local in spin, but not distance. IE, entangled particles infinitely far apart will still share the same spin, which is the basis behind quantum teleportation.
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So it's either consistently faster than the speed of light, or their measurements are consistently wrong. I'm really curious which it is.
You should study the math behind relativity, there's a reason why the speed limit for light is considered universal and unbreakable. Comparing it to the sound barrier is a bad analogy.
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I think the math behind it says that mass = energy and in order to go faster than light it would need more energy than mass so it simply can't happen.

The thing to keep in mind is that special relativity is still very vague when it comes to faster-than-light travel. One equation says that it would take an "infinite" amount of energy to accelerate an object with mass to faster than the speed of light. But on the other hand, SR doesn't preclude the existence of a particle already traveling faster than the speed of light. Question is, how does a particle that is already traveling at the speed of light or faster achieve that velocity? Can they simply come into existence at that speed? Or is there some other mechanism to explain it. While (other than this story), there is only speculation the FTL particles can exist, it's a good illustration of the breakdown of SR--doesn't mean it doesn't work, only that it's (a) a VERY young field, and (b) like anything, it can't necessarily explain everything.

Our discovery of a particle that we think is traveling faster than the speed of light--while revolutionary in terms of getting information--doesn't really change our day-to-day lives all that much.

That being said, I await even further confirmation.

Also, where's that crackpot-sounding guy who was droning on in the previous threads about this project and on about how the scientists didn't know what they were doing?
    
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he answer is they dont know why! lol
 
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post #28 of 68
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Whoa...so it looks like it may have actually been moving faster than the speed of light after all?
Gosh this incredible. I wonder accurate we could shoot these particles? Set one up on Mars and fire the particles in burst like mores code at a target on earth. Faster than light communication with a Mars base. All sorts of uses if it can be applied.
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The speed difference is negligible. Unless is was over a huge distance
Edited by PappaSmurfsHarem - 11/18/11 at 3:43pm
     
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yay post einsteinian physics! we're finally moving up!
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Originally Posted by Sazar View Post

Or maybe instead of losing all it's energy,
It is simply gaining Negative energy (dark energy)?
Thoughts?

My thoughts are that your comment was very uneducated, if something loses energy it doesn't gain negative energy.
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