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You can never stop communication.

But you can make people stupid enough to let you try.
    
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post #22 of 39
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Originally Posted by Emmuh View Post

Yes it is... I believe the specific terms are its freedom of speech/religion as long as it is not "Libelous, Slanderous, or Vulgar" at least that's how I learned it. Also as long as we're going to get into a political flame war... (what political war nowadays isnt?!?!?!?) lets do some Declaration of Independence and Winston Churchill quoting shall we?
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."
So... are founding fathers want us to abolish this government we're not happy with?
And then there's this guy named Winston Churchill who did something with WWII and killing Nazi's and stuff who said
"Democracy is the worst form of government except every other one that's been tried"

ok, maybe i should have been more specific as should most of the posters in this thread. not all lying is legal. libel and slander are both forms of lying. perjury is illegal, and so is lying about your veteran status is illegal in america
post #23 of 39
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Originally Posted by CyberDruid View Post

You think that's crazy...how about the food nazi's raiding Amish farms forcing them to dump out their raw milk. Big Brother isn't happy just sticking his hands down your pants at the airport, he wants to control every aspect of your life. Because we are too stupid to make decisions. We're consumer cattle with no rights. If you want to drink raw milk you can't. If you want to smoke in your car in the UK you can't. If you want to discipline your child you can't.
But it's okay for a football coach to rape children, it's okay for congress to make money of insider trade knowledge, it's okay to assassinate an American Citizien without trial, it's okay to invade a country, to wage war without declaring it, for banks to to steal their depositors money, etc etc etc
There are two sets of laws.
Freedom and Justice for all? Since when?


Hate people like this who think the government is so controlling. Take life granted so much when we have it amazing compared to most of the world.

 

OT: I think this should be passed to an extent, I don't think if I lied about where I live and who I am on a random website should give me a federal charge unless I did it to commit an immoral act such as the person they said made a teenage girl commit suicide, that's when it should be held accountable. I'm sure every company that requires you to make an account will be against this such as facebook, since they can expect their users not increase as much if people were forced to tell 100% truth. Thanks, but I'm not putting my full name and everything about me so I can be stalked.

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post #24 of 39
Since when is lying a crime ?
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All I'm going to say is that the government needs to stop pissing off the people who could cripple the computer side of the government relatively easy.


Am I the only one who thinks it funny that most of the very computer/hacking smart people are not inside the government?



Also, how would this affect my spamming smile.gif
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Does this mean people could be in trouble for lying about their ... shoe size?
    
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They're jumping the gun. I can see why it's illegal to lie on official federal identity forms. But there's nothing illegal with telling some random people any sort of made-up "fact" about myself. The internet is full of random people, plus it's not (yet) federally regulated. Ergo, I don't see how something like this could realistically be enforced.edit--I can understand why a site might reject your membership if you appear to be posting false or exaggerated info about yourself--but that's very different from a government body considering it "illegal."
Edited by guyladouche - 11/18/11 at 4:01pm
    
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So much for my 1st Amendment right. Lying is suppose to be protected in common speech (not interrogation during a crime apparently), but in the case of fraud, it isn't protected, which is ok. What any person says on the internet shouldn't be a crime unless it's libel or slander or a conspiracy of assassination. What info anyone puts into their profile is their thing, and does no harm to anyone unless fraud is commited. Shame, the Bill of Rights is suppose to be rights protected by government. Even in today's world, the internet is part of press and speech. Shame how it is now "It says this in the Amendment, BUT (pulling the bs from their butthole) you are still limited.
Edited by bucdan - 11/18/11 at 4:06pm
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Way to nerf the 1st amendment -- which is becoming more and more of an illusion.
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You think that's crazy...how about the food nazi's raiding Amish farms forcing them to dump out their raw milk. Big Brother isn't happy just sticking his hands down your pants at the airport, he wants to control every aspect of your life. Because we are too stupid to make decisions. We're consumer cattle with no rights. If you want to drink raw milk you can't. If you want to smoke in your car in the UK you can't. If you want to discipline your child you can't.
But it's okay for a football coach to rape children, it's okay for congress to make money of insider trade knowledge, it's okay to assassinate an American Citizien without trial, it's okay to invade a country, to wage war without declaring it, for banks to to steal their depositors money, etc etc etc
There are two sets of laws.
Freedom and Justice for all? Since when?

This. A thousand times this.
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