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Hey guys I'm planning a Christmas upgrade and need some advice.
Originally i planned on getting 2600k , 16 GB Ram , 120GB SATA 3 SSD and 20GB 311 Intel SSD for SRT and selling my current CPU+ mobo to get a 1155 motherboard , all that would set me back about 700$ and honestly that's max what i can spend.
Thing is now the new LGA 2011 CPU's are out i started wondering is i wont be better getting 3930k instead.
I could get 3930k and 16GB of memory for 700$ sell my mobo to get LGA 2011 Gigabyte UD7 pass on SRTand stick with my current SSD for now.
To be honest the thing that worries me the most is 2600k having only 16 PCI E lanes , i have GTX590 which is already plenty for it and I'm planning to go Quad SLI within next 6/8 months which would surly be too much for 2600k.
Other thing is LGA 2011 boards support PCI 3.0 which is good for the future.
It just feels that buying into a year old platform with a known limit while planning on a high end gaming rig doesn't seem a good choice at this point.
Things that are still bugging me are will Ivy Bridge support more PCI E lanes or is that limited by the 1155 platform? and future cards because lets be honest if next gen AMD/Nvidia cards will offer a GTX590 level of performance in a single chip my plans for quad SLI will be in question.
Any thoughts/advice ?


P.S I need to upgrade within next month or the window will close and money will be gone tongue.gif
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Use a ssd for main OS and forget about SRT. Get the 3930k. Done.

Upgrade to Ivy Bridge E in the future.
    
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Use a ssd for main OS and forget about SRT. Get the 3930k. Done.
Upgrade to Ivy Bridge E in the future.

I'm leaning more towards this solution as well , LGA 2011/X79 seems like a good investment for future and more natural step up from my X58.
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I think you will get more satisfaction now going to 2011.
    
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From a pure gaming stand point you are probably wasting your money. 2600K is not to be scoffed at, year old or not. If that mentality was the defacto means of buying stuff than SB-E was old the day it was conceived in the lab.

It seems you really want SB-E, so I would agree with SMK and suggest you buy it. But ask yourself are your really getting your money's worth? SB-E is easily a $1000+ investment, for the same amount you could build a better system (with SSD, tho personally cant say if SRT is worthwhile) that offers room for upgrading etc etc.

I'd have to search to find any hints that 2600K will bottleneck a quad 590 setup, though with its O.C. capabilities I'm sure it would be just fine.

No matter how you look at it, technology is always going to be outpacing our real-world needs and something better will always be around the corner. Just really sit down and ask yourself what it is you need in a PC vs what you want, and go with whatever you conclude and makes you happiest!
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From a pure gaming stand point you are probably wasting your money. 2600K is not to be scoffed at, year old or not. If that mentality was the defacto means of buying stuff than SB-E was old the day it was conceived in the lab.
It seems you really want SB-E, so I would agree with SMK and suggest you buy it. But ask yourself are your really getting your money's worth? SB-E is easily a $1000+ investment, for the same amount you could build a better system (with SSD, tho personally cant say if SRT is worthwhile) that offers room for upgrading etc etc.
I'd have to search to find any hints that 2600K will bottleneck a quad 590 setup, though with its O.C. capabilities I'm sure it would be just fine.
No matter how you look at it, technology is always going to be outpacing our real-world needs and something better will always be around the corner. Just really sit down and ask yourself what it is you need in a PC vs what you want, and go with whatever you conclude and makes you happiest!

This.

Then again... SB-E, Quad SLI, a monster PSU and no doubt some extra 27" monitors.
OP is making bank.

Also curious. What are you doing that requires Quad SLI 590's?

If i were OP. I'd just hang onto that rig until it died on me.
 
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Unless you are going to have four graphics cards for quad sli (like 4 x gtx 580's) and not just two 590's there is NO point to get lga 2011. P67 can handle three cards or quad sli with two dual gpu cards just fine.

Ivy bridge will be out for socket 1155 way before socket 2011 and if you look at gaming performance there is ZERO difference between SB and SB-E. (look at benchmarks if you don't believe it.)

If you buy SB-E and you are just gaming with less than 4 graphics cards you are just wasting your money.

So unless you are doing something that requires 6 cores/12 threads, you should get SB socket 1155 and spend the extra money on ssd, graphics or whatever.
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Unless you are going to have four graphics cards for quad sli (like 4 x gtx 580's) and not just two 590's there is NO point to get lga 2011. P67 can handle three cards or quad sli with two dual gpu cards just fine.
Ivy bridge will be out for socket 1155 way before socket 2011 and if you look at gaming performance there is ZERO difference between SB and SB-E. (look at benchmarks if you don't believe it.)
If you buy SB-E and you are just gaming with less than 4 graphics cards you are just wasting your money.
So unless you are doing something that requires 6 cores/12 threads, you should get SB socket 1155 and spend the extra money on ssd, graphics or whatever.

See from my experience running cards at x4 comes with noticeable loos of performance.
I used to have two GTX480 in SLI and tried to improve my temperature by spacing the cards , thing is bottom slot on my Asus P6t is only x4 which made other card run at x4 as well.
I did some testing with both cards x16 and x4 and there is a difference and quite noticeable one at that.
Now since 2600k has only 16 PCI E lanes my GTX590 is running x8/x8 which is fine cause the difference between x8 and x16 is minor but if i were to run two GTX590 in Quad SLI the cards would go down to x4 and that's what I'm worried about.
As for the benchmarks there is a gain between running 2600k and 3930k and it's getting bigger with the amount of GPU's you have look here.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/core-i7-3960x-x79-sandy-bridge-e,3071-18.html

See the 3930k seems a bit pricey and i could have a good CPU and SSD but it feels like a better choice for the future , i don't want to find myself in need of a new platform a year form now.
For some people Quad SLI for a single 1080 monitor is way too much but i assure you it's not , my current rig runs BF3 on ultra but it's maxed out and i can feel frame drops quite often i could use more power , maxing out Withcher 2 properly would be nice too uber sampling kills GTX590 completely.
I can get SATA 3 SSD later it's not nearly as big of investment as whole 3930k/X79 change.
It's kinda hard choice ............ i guess it's a toss of the coin type of decision. wink.gif

P.S PCI E 30 seems like plus to the X79 as well.
Edited by RobotDevil666 - 11/18/11 at 11:10am
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A lot of X79 tech, as i remember reading, is still not fully implemented on the launch motherboards. So you wont be seeing 100% of SB-E's features (i can find Toms/Anand for specifics). Also since no cards are PCI-E 3, there isn't any hard facts it is going to push the limits of the system, you could see a marginal improvement. More so, the 600 series NVidia cards could either be a HUGE gain or a simple side step.

Again, just do what you think will make you happiest. It seems you really want to invest in SB-E, so do it, test it and if you hate it, return it.
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