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How did you get the icons beside your steam games? I can only get it to do that in list view :S

Click the little + at the top of the list and check icon.

Edit: I was late...
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I purchased ARMA II on a steam sale, otherwise it wouldn't be in my library. Even now, I installed it, gave it about 30 minutes of my life, and uninstalled. EXTREMELY slow paced. I have limited time to game, I don't want to spend my game time waiting, when I can wait while doing something else. lol
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isn't pirating what has killed pc gaming?

It depends on who you ask. Some say because Devs make crappy games people will pirate cause they don't want to waste money on crappy games. But at the same time one could argue Devs don't spend much time on PC because people pirate.

Its a catch 22.

Then there is the DRM argument. I can understand why people hate DRM. But unless it actually affects you I say let it be. There is only one time DRM actually stopped me from playing a game and that was SPORE. All I had to do was go on live chat for 5 minutes with EA and they just released my keys again and worked like a charm.
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isn't pirating what has killed pc gaming?

I -and many others- were not aware that it was dead?
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I -and many others- were not aware that it was dead?

If anything is killing PC gaming, it's widespread adoption and stagnation of consoles and the success of casual social network games. Piracy has little if anything to do with it. That's just the companies excuse to PC gamers when asked why they sold out to big publishers and started making cruddy ports and near-ports.
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I feel like if game companies forced each user to register online with a specific key code it would solve piracy for the most part. As long as they kept track of what codes have been sold and activated. Cracks shouldnt even work then. Kind of like how more recent games like BF3 do it.

Well see that makes people mad. PC gamers in general are the whiniest of the bunch when compared to console gamers. There is a general air amongst PC gamers that make them feel entitled to something. Like with BF3 the fact that it is tied to an account people hate that cause then they can't trade it.

But at the same time there really isn't a way to stop piracy. People say don't put DRM and make a good game people won't pirate it. To my knowledge so far, there hasn't been a single shred of evidence. Again that just means I don't know of any there very well maybe proof. But in my opinion why buy something when I can get it for free? Of course that has ramification down the road. But people don't usually think ahead they think of now. And right now they want the game.
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If anything is killing PC gaming, it's widespread adoption and stagnation of consoles and the success of casual social network games. Piracy has little if anything to do with it. That's just the companies excuse to PC gamers when asked why they sold out to big publishers and started making cruddy ports and near-ports.

I'm aware of these, wasn't inputting, just hoping that people could get away from this attitude of PC gaming being dead already. There are currently just over 4 million people on Steam. I'd hardly say PC Gaming was dead at all. Nor dying for that matter, Steam figures are only going up and up.
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How much of that total are china, india and brazil responsible for? Total piracy is NOT equal to piracy in the US. Corporations and politicians alike tend to forget that when quoting numbers like this while calling for legislation.
    
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Well see that makes people mad. PC gamers in general are the whiniest of the bunch when compared to console gamers. There is a general air amongst PC gamers that make them feel entitled to something. Like with BF3 the fact that it is tied to an account people hate that cause then they can't trade it.
But at the same time there really isn't a way to stop piracy. People say don't put DRM and make a good game people won't pirate it. To my knowledge so far, there hasn't been a single shred of evidence. Again that just means I don't know of any there very well maybe proof. But in my opinion why buy something when I can get it for free? Of course that has ramification down the road. But people don't usually think ahead they think of now. And right now they want the game.

I see where you're coming from, and from an uninformed perspective your argument would hold some weight. That said, I assume you're smart enough to see where I'm going with this.

There have been studies which show that your average pirate actually spend up to 10 times as much on games legally as those who don't pirate. It's a simple numbers game. A pirated copy is not a stolen copy. No product was actually removed from it's owner. Yes, someone got a copy without paying for it, but there is little reason to believe that same person would have actually paid for a copy if they couldn't pirate it. And at the end of the day, pirates will often buy buy legal copies of the games they really care about, either out of ethical obligation, support for the developers, or simply to "unlock" support and possibly additional content for the game.

As for PC gamers being the "whiniest bunch", quite frankly, there is a difference between being whiny, and simply being treated as second-class consumers and not being ignorant of that fact. We spend more money on our gaming platform. Believe it or not, that money IS going to game companies, albeit indirectly. So why do we have to deal with further delayed releases, more restrictive DRM, buggier games, lack of support, and half-hearted development for cross-platform games, or even worse, straight ports, when we arr paying the same thing console owners pay (and ultimately MORE through hardware company subsidization and lack of console-title-fees)? To add insult to injury, the majority of these developers got where they are today thanks to PC gaming - They're essentially telling their fans "Hey, you know that thing we had you invest a lot of money into? Toss it out the window and buy this new thing that is actually inferior because we're only supporting that now. Kthxbai".

I'd like to see console gamers swallow that same pill as gracefully as PC gamers do. "you guys" flip out over far more shallow and trivial things as is.
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It depends on who you ask. Some say because Devs make crappy games people will pirate cause they don't want to waste money on crappy games. But at the same time one could argue Devs don't spend much time on PC because people pirate.
Its a catch 22.
Then there is the DRM argument. I can understand why people hate DRM. But unless it actually affects you I say let it be. There is only one time DRM actually stopped me from playing a game and that was SPORE. All I had to do was go on live chat for 5 minutes with EA and they just released my keys again and worked like a charm.

Consider yourself lucky. Many users are unable to play their games on a regular basis due to overly restrictive DRM. Others can play, but are restricted in their abilities for absolutely no logical reason. Furthermore, many DRM solutions are overly taxing on the system, which any real gamer can tell you is counterproductive to making a GOOD game.

The ironic part is pirating the game and bypassing the DRM removes all these issues entirely. Why buy a game for money when you can get a better version of it for free? Should be the other way around I'd think.
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