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post #51 of 141
While I usually don't like lian li cases (even though I must agree that they're like a blank canvas for modders), this build of yours ain't half bad (read: it's cool) biggrin.gif And I love Enzotech barbs wubsmiley.gif
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Originally Posted by Blizlake View Post

While I usually don't like lian li cases (even though I must agree that they're like a blank canvas for modders), this build of yours ain't half bad (read: it's cool) biggrin.gif And I love Enzotech barbs wubsmiley.gif

How could someone NOT like Lian Li cases???

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post #53 of 141
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Originally Posted by kevingreenbmx View Post

How could someone NOT like Lian Li cases???
Hmm, lets see... Fugly bare metal interior (Ok on silver cases tho), expensive, good looking cases have retarded airflow, cases that have good airflow look retarded, I prefer thumbscrews over the toolless mechanism LL uses, no cable grommets/bad cable routing in general... I think that's most of 'em reasons why I dont like LL tongue.gif
But as I already said some of their cases are practically modders wet dreams and there are LL cases that I do like, like the V1020 (even though I dont like the wheels. Any idea if those are removable?).

But hey, I aint here to bash LL cases but following a great build thumb.gif
Peace, Bliz wubsmiley.gif

Ps. I might be crazy but things could be a lot worse: I could be Canadian or, god forbid, Swedish
Edited by Blizlake - 2/21/12 at 7:48am
post #54 of 141
Fugly bare metal interior - most of their cases are available with coated interiors now, but I have a distaste for pre-painted interiors because typically there are modifications that need to be done to a case that will just make you have to repaint it anyway.

expensive - not for the quality, also they have cases that are in the mainstream price brackets as well as the high end.

good looking cases have retarded airflow, cases that have good airflow look retarded - This varies from case to case. Many of the larger Lian Li cases have poor airflow for air cooling, but that is simply because of the size. NO full tower case has good airflow without tons of fans. Also, "good looking" is subjective... There are tons of great looking cases with great airflow (pc-v600f, pc-9 etc.), and tons of ugly cases with terrible airflow.

I prefer thumbscrews over the toolless mechanism - me too, The tool-less things are optional in almost all lian li cases.

LL uses, no cable grommets/bad cable routing in general - Cable grommets are something that should be added by the end user. I hate when cases are full of those ugly things stock (corsair motherboard trays make my cry a little inside) I want to choose exactly where any holes in my case go and I do not want any that to not have a specific purpose. How else can you make a build look nice and clean?


all that said: The number one thing that lian li has up on most other case makers is pure quality of build. Lian li cases are EXTREMELY well made. they use high quality sheet metal, well designed construction, and are extremely light and rigid. I have seen no other (mainstream) cases manufactured with such care except for some of the high end silverstone cases.



there are LL cases that I do like, like the V1020 (even though I dont like the wheels. Any idea if those are removable?). - They are wink.gif


Ps. I might be crazy but things could be a lot worse: I could be Canadian or, god forbid, Swedish - What is wrong with Canadians? I happen to be marrying one. tongue.gif
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Fugly bare metal interior - most of their cases are available with coated interiors now, but I have a distaste for pre-painted interiors because typically there are modifications that need to be done to a case that will just make you have to repaint it anyway.
I've seen some cases with painted interiors (like the red v1020), but my point still stands even though it doesnt concern all of their cases.

expensive - not for the quality, also they have cases that are in the mainstream price brackets as well as the high end.
This should actually be with the below point, like this: "good airflow, good looks, affordable - You can only choose 2" tongue.gif but that goes with many other cases too, I admit that.

good looking cases have retarded airflow, cases that have good airflow look retarded - This varies from case to case. Many of the larger Lian Li cases have poor airflow for air cooling, but that is simply because of the size. NO full tower case has good airflow without tons of fans. Also, "good looking" is subjective... There are tons of great looking cases with great airflow (pc-v600f, pc-9 etc.), and tons of ugly cases with terrible airflow.
Indeed, but none of the things I listed are "universal", just generalizations.

I prefer thumbscrews over the toolless mechanism - me too, The tool-less things are optional in almost all lian li cases.
Can the tool-less mechanism be easily removed so that only thumbscrews remain? If so, then that's no longer a con.

LL uses, no cable grommets/bad cable routing in general - Cable grommets are something that should be added by the end user. I hate when cases are full of those ugly things stock (corsair motherboard trays make my cry a little inside) I want to choose exactly where any holes in my case go and I do not want any that to not have a specific purpose. How else can you make a build look nice and clean?
½ agree with you here. I'd rather get the grommets though as they can be easily removed, but finding aftermarket ones is a PITA. Also too many holes on the mobo tray = bad.

all that said: The number one thing that lian li has up on most other case makers is pure quality of build. Lian li cases are EXTREMELY well made. they use high quality sheet metal, well designed construction, and are extremely light and rigid. I have seen no other (mainstream) cases manufactured with such care except for some of the high end silverstone cases.
Can't help but to agree with you here.


there are LL cases that I do like, like the V1020 (even though I dont like the wheels. Any idea if those are removable?). - They are wink.gif
Damn, I already regret asking that... Any ideas how I could justify spending 300 euros on a case in the current economic situation (and where could I get such money)?


Ps. I might be crazy but things could be a lot worse: I could be Canadian or, god forbid, Swedish - What is wrong with Canadians? I happen to be marrying one. tongue.gif
lol nothin' wrong with canadians, that one was a joke. Swedish on the other hand... rolleyes.gif Also, congrats smile.gif
post #56 of 141
Can the tool-less mechanism be easily removed so that only thumbscrews remain? If so, then that's no longer a con yep, they can in all the ones I have seen. thumb.gif The tool-less mechanism just bolts on to the back of the case and when you flip the lever it pushes a little pin into the threaded hole instead of using an actual screw. if you take it off you are left with a standard bolt-in mounting system for your cards.
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Fugly bare metal interior - most of their cases are available with coated interiors now, but I have a distaste for pre-painted interiors because typically there are modifications that need to be done to a case that will just make you have to repaint it anyway.
I've seen some cases with painted interiors (like the red v1020), but my point still stands even though it doesnt concern all of their cases.
I kinda like the unpainted aluminum, it looks much nicer than unpainted steel.

expensive - not for the quality, also they have cases that are in the mainstream price brackets as well as the high end.
This should actually be with the below point, like this: "good airflow, good looks, affordable - You can only choose 2" tongue.gif but that goes with many other cases too, I admit that.
I only paid $169.99 for it with free shipping. Not too bad if you ask me for a 100% aluminum case, not part aluminum or plastic covered by thin aluminum (cough CM Cosmos II cough) or plastic made to look like aluminum, and the quality is very high.

good looking cases have retarded airflow, cases that have good airflow look retarded - This varies from case to case. Many of the larger Lian Li cases have poor airflow for air cooling, but that is simply because of the size. NO full tower case has good airflow without tons of fans. Also, "good looking" is subjective... There are tons of great looking cases with great airflow (pc-v600f, pc-9 etc.), and tons of ugly cases with terrible airflow.
Indeed, but none of the things I listed are "universal", just generalizations.
Air flow in my case is great, but I'm sure that has nothing to do with the the 360 up top with push pull GT15's biggrin.gif


I prefer thumbscrews over the toolless mechanism - me too, The tool-less things are optional in almost all lian li cases.
Can the tool-less mechanism be easily removed so that only thumbscrews remain? If so, then that's no longer a con.
Tool-less pretty much sucks on any case and I have noticed some case makes are starting to go way from them again. The 5.25" bay tool-less in this case are 100% garbage, but the PCI ones, let me tell you, they are then next best thing to thumb screws, maybe even better. I'm sure I could lift my case with my GPU being held in by the tool-less. Yes its that good, a little stiff at first but loosens up a little after a couple flips.


LL uses, no cable grommets/bad cable routing in general - Cable grommets are something that should be added by the end user. I hate when cases are full of those ugly things stock (corsair motherboard trays make my cry a little inside) I want to choose exactly where any holes in my case go and I do not want any that to not have a specific purpose. How else can you make a build look nice and clean?
½ agree with you here. I'd rather get the grommets though as they can be easily removed, but finding aftermarket ones is a PITA. Also too many holes on the mobo tray = bad.
Yep I want to make my own holes for cables,and grommets are easy to find now, both Corsair and Cooler Master are selling them. BTW the 800D replacment ones are the best bang for your buck, you can do 2-3 case with that one pack.

all that said: The number one thing that lian li has up on most other case makers is pure quality of build. Lian li cases are EXTREMELY well made. they use high quality sheet metal, well designed construction, and are extremely light and rigid. I have seen no other (mainstream) cases manufactured with such care except for some of the high end silverstone cases.
Can't help but to agree with you here.
The plain Lian Li uses aluminum not sheet metal. The Lian Li Lancool uses steel, plastic and aluminum.

there are LL cases that I do like, like the V1020 (even though I dont like the wheels. Any idea if those are removable?). - They are wink.gif
Damn, I already regret asking that... Any ideas how I could justify spending 300 euros on a case in the current economic situation (and where could I get such money)?
A higher paying job, sorry I had to say it biggrin.gif

Ps. I might be crazy but things could be a lot worse: I could be Canadian or, god forbid, Swedish - What is wrong with Canadians? I happen to be marrying one. tongue.gif
lol nothin' wrong with canadians, that one was a joke. Swedish on the other hand... rolleyes.gif Also, congrats smile.gif
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Can the tool-less mechanism be easily removed so that only thumbscrews remain? If so, then that's no longer a con yep, they can in all the ones I have seen. thumb.gif The tool-less mechanism just bolts on to the back of the case and when you flip the lever it pushes a little pin into the threaded hole instead of using an actual screw. if you take it off you are left with a standard bolt-in mounting system for your cards.

Yep, but not sure why you would want too, it's the first tool-less for the PCI's that I like, and it works like to should! thumb.gif
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While I usually don't like lian li cases (even though I must agree that they're like a blank canvas for modders), this build of yours ain't half bad (read: it's cool) biggrin.gif And I love Enzotech barbs wubsmiley.gif

How could someone NOT like Lian Li cases???

400

tongue.gif


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Originally Posted by Blizlake View Post

While I usually don't like lian li cases (even though I must agree that they're like a blank canvas for modders), this build of yours ain't half bad (read: it's cool) biggrin.gif And I love Enzotech barbs wubsmiley.gif

I'm liking them, they haven't leaked and not to easy to scratch
Edited by GoodInk - 2/21/12 at 3:28pm
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The plain Lian Li uses aluminum not sheet metal. The Lian Li Lancool uses steel, plastic and aluminum.

Aluminum sheet is a type of sheet metal, just sayin' tongue.gif
post #59 of 141
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Fugly bare metal interior - most of their cases are available with coated interiors now, but I have a distaste for pre-painted interiors because typically there are modifications that need to be done to a case that will just make you have to repaint it anyway.
expensive - not for the quality, also they have cases that are in the mainstream price brackets as well as the high end.
good looking cases have retarded airflow, cases that have good airflow look retarded - This varies from case to case. Many of the larger Lian Li cases have poor airflow for air cooling, but that is simply because of the size. NO full tower case has good airflow without tons of fans. Also, "good looking" is subjective... There are tons of great looking cases with great airflow (pc-v600f, pc-9 etc.), and tons of ugly cases with terrible airflow.
I prefer thumbscrews over the toolless mechanism - me too, The tool-less things are optional in almost all lian li cases.
LL uses, no cable grommets/bad cable routing in general - Cable grommets are something that should be added by the end user. I hate when cases are full of those ugly things stock (corsair motherboard trays make my cry a little inside) I want to choose exactly where any holes in my case go and I do not want any that to not have a specific purpose. How else can you make a build look nice and clean?
all that said: The number one thing that lian li has up on most other case makers is pure quality of build. Lian li cases are EXTREMELY well made. they use high quality sheet metal, well designed construction, and are extremely light and rigid. I have seen no other (mainstream) cases manufactured with such care except for some of the high end silverstone cases.
there are LL cases that I do like, like the V1020 (even though I dont like the wheels. Any idea if those are removable?). - They are wink.gif
Ps. I might be crazy but things could be a lot worse: I could be Canadian or, god forbid, Swedish - What is wrong with Canadians? I happen to be marrying one. tongue.gif

Very well said kevin, call me old school but toolless is out for me.
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The plain Lian Li uses aluminum not sheet metal. The Lian Li Lancool uses steel, plastic and aluminum.

Aluminum sheet is a type of sheet metal, just sayin' tongue.gif

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Fugly bare metal interior - most of their cases are available with coated interiors now, but I have a distaste for pre-painted interiors because typically there are modifications that need to be done to a case that will just make you have to repaint it anyway.
expensive - not for the quality, also they have cases that are in the mainstream price brackets as well as the high end.
good looking cases have retarded airflow, cases that have good airflow look retarded - This varies from case to case. Many of the larger Lian Li cases have poor airflow for air cooling, but that is simply because of the size. NO full tower case has good airflow without tons of fans. Also, "good looking" is subjective... There are tons of great looking cases with great airflow (pc-v600f, pc-9 etc.), and tons of ugly cases with terrible airflow.
I prefer thumbscrews over the toolless mechanism - me too, The tool-less things are optional in almost all lian li cases.
LL uses, no cable grommets/bad cable routing in general - Cable grommets are something that should be added by the end user. I hate when cases are full of those ugly things stock (corsair motherboard trays make my cry a little inside) I want to choose exactly where any holes in my case go and I do not want any that to not have a specific purpose. How else can you make a build look nice and clean?
all that said: The number one thing that lian li has up on most other case makers is pure quality of build. Lian li cases are EXTREMELY well made. they use high quality sheet metal, well designed construction, and are extremely light and rigid. I have seen no other (mainstream) cases manufactured with such care except for some of the high end silverstone cases.
there are LL cases that I do like, like the V1020 (even though I dont like the wheels. Any idea if those are removable?). - They are wink.gif
Ps. I might be crazy but things could be a lot worse: I could be Canadian or, god forbid, Swedish - What is wrong with Canadians? I happen to be marrying one. tongue.gif

Very well said kevin, call me old school but toolless is out for me.

Welcome sil3nt, and good luck in the MOTM. It's another good turn out this month.

On that note thanks for bringing it back to life Kevin.
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