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Frequency response and power output.
SUB80 = Goes down to 40Hz successfully, 80w RMS.
SUB100 = Goes down to 30Hz successfully, 125w RMS
SUB120 = Goes down to 25Hz successfully, 150w RMS
The lower your subwoofer can successfully go, the better. wink.gif

Yeah... I asked my dad about the 120 and he wasn't too happy tongue.gif.

So I was looking around, and I noticed that there is also a SUB-800. It is slightly more compact than the SUB-80. Which of the two do you recommend? I would also have to add a filled item if I purchase from parts express to get free shipping.
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Driver size, box size, and the SUB-80 is 80 watts vs SUB-120's 150 watts. Watts should be of no concern to you anyways, since you're in a small room. Driver size is everything, since the 12" can go much lower (in terms of frequency). I personally wouldn't put a sub so close to walls, but in your case, it can't be helped.
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Yeah... I asked my dad about the 120 and he wasn't too happy tongue.gif.
So I was looking around, and I noticed that there is also a SUB-800. It is slightly more compact than the SUB-80. Which of the two do you recommend? I would also have to add a filled item if I purchase from parts express to get free shipping.

Specs say 42-200hz. Whether or not it's +/- 3db is not stated. 6.5" woofers wont get you far, even with radiators. A nice of bookshelves going full range would be my recommendation, but since space is limited for you I'd suggest the SUB-80 over the 800. And the SUB-100 (if you can) or the SUB-80.

Edit: Nevermind, seems like the price for the SUB-800 is $380, and the amplifier power is PEAK power, so it's a useless spec. SKIP


LOLOLOL different sub. The Dayton SUB-800 uses a different driver and is a tiny bit smaller, probably the same performance.
Edited by Eugenester - 11/19/11 at 10:42pm
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Frequency response and power output.
SUB80 = Goes down to 40Hz successfully, 80w RMS.
SUB100 = Goes down to 30Hz successfully, 125w RMS
SUB120 = Goes down to 25Hz successfully, 150w RMS
The lower your subwoofer can successfully go, the better. wink.gif

Yeah... I asked my dad about the 120 and he wasn't too happy tongue.gif.

So I was looking around, and I noticed that there is also a SUB-800. It is slightly more compact than the SUB-80. Which of the two do you recommend? I would also have to add a filled item if I purchase from parts express to get free shipping.

SUB80 = SUB800. It's just the newer model, so its more expensive. It's the same exact subwoofer.

I would seriously recommend grabbing the SUB120 since its only $99. You will NOT beat that price, especially a bang for buck sub like that. I paid $200 for mine back in the day, and I would be HAPPY to pay that much for it again. At $100 its an absolute STEAL. Looks like they're pushing the old model out to fit in the new model. Same subs though it looks like.

Your call though. smile.gif The SUB80 or SUB800 are the same thing, so grab the SUB80. They'll both disappoint with low frequencies, since they start to fade out at 40Hz. That's not low enough for a sub in my opinion.
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SUB80 = SUB800. It's just the newer model, so its more expensive. It's the same exact subwoofer.
I would seriously recommend grabbing the SUB120 since its only $99. You will NOT beat that price, especially a bang for buck sub like that. I paid $200 for mine back in the day, and I would be HAPPY to pay that much for it again. At $100 its an absolute STEAL. Looks like they're pushing the old model out to fit in the new model. Same subs though it looks like.
Your call though. smile.gif The SUB80 or SUB800 are the same thing, so grab the SUB80. They'll both disappoint with low frequencies, since they start to fade out at 40Hz. That's not low enough for a sub in my opinion.

Hmm, in that case I will think about it. I don't know if a 12" sub would be right for me, so I will sleep on the thought.

Thanks again for the help Pioneer!

One last question. It's a little off topic but I do not think it deserves its own thread: There is a button on my Lepai amp that says Tone/Direct. When I have it set to Direct I can make my B652's get extremely loud, to the point where I would go deaf if I made them louder. However, if set to Tone then if I go above like 50% volume my amp just shuts off. Any reason why?
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SUB80 = SUB800. It's just the newer model, so its more expensive. It's the same exact subwoofer.
I would seriously recommend grabbing the SUB120 since its only $99. You will NOT beat that price, especially a bang for buck sub like that. I paid $200 for mine back in the day, and I would be HAPPY to pay that much for it again. At $100 its an absolute STEAL. Looks like they're pushing the old model out to fit in the new model. Same subs though it looks like.
Your call though. smile.gif The SUB80 or SUB800 are the same thing, so grab the SUB80. They'll both disappoint with low frequencies, since they start to fade out at 40Hz. That's not low enough for a sub in my opinion.

Hmm, in that case I will think about it. I don't know if a 12" sub would be right for me, so I will sleep on the thought.

Thanks again for the help Pioneer!

One last question. It's a little off topic but I do not think it deserves its own thread: There is a button on my Lepai amp that says Tone/Direct. When I have it set to Direct I can make my B652's get extremely loud, to the point where I would go deaf if I made them louder. However, if set to Tone then if I go above like 50% volume my amp just shuts off. Any reason why?

Bust out a tape measure, and find out where you can squeeze the SUB120 in at. wink.gif It shows the size of it on the product page at PE.

When you have it set to direct, you're JUST amplifying. When its set to "Tone", you're using the bass / treble knobs, which will add distortion.
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Bust out a tape measure, and find out where you can squeeze the SUB120 in at. wink.gif It shows the size of it on the product page at PE.
When you have it set to direct, you're JUST amplifying. When its set to "Tone", you're using the bass / treble knobs, which will add distortion.

So just set it to Direct then?

And again, ty for the help. Why are you not the Audio Editor on OCN?
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Bust out a tape measure, and find out where you can squeeze the SUB120 in at. wink.gif It shows the size of it on the product page at PE.
When you have it set to direct, you're JUST amplifying. When its set to "Tone", you're using the bass / treble knobs, which will add distortion.

So just set it to Direct then?

And again, ty for the help. Why are you not the Audio Editor on OCN?

I would set it to direct, and use your sound card to adjust tone. Lower volume on the sound card if needed to keep it clean.

I'm not an audio editor because I'm a moderator. I'm not too good at organizing content.
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I would set it to direct, and use your sound card to adjust tone. Lower volume on the sound card if needed to keep it clean.
I'm not an audio editor because I'm a moderator. I'm not too good at organizing content.

Ah, I see. Thanks though!

Can't wait to buy a sub. Hopefully it won't dilute the mids/highs though since I mainly listen to metal.
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I would set it to direct, and use your sound card to adjust tone. Lower volume on the sound card if needed to keep it clean.
I'm not an audio editor because I'm a moderator. I'm not too good at organizing content.

Ah, I see. Thanks though!

Can't wait to buy a sub. Hopefully it won't dilute the mids/highs though since I mainly listen to metal.

It won't as long as you set it correctly. wink.gif The gain isn't a volume knob. You only turn it up loud enough so that it blends in nicely with your mains.
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It won't as long as you set it correctly. wink.gif The gain isn't a volume knob. You only turn it up loud enough so that it blends in nicely with your mains.

Yes, dont forget that you can control the gain on the sub's amp if you want to keep it subtle and not disturb anyone, and crank it up some to shake the floors when you want. thumb.gif
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