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post #11 of 29
Alright Here we go.

Cooler Master Mini Tower and 450w PSU Combo $75
AMD A6-3500 + ASUS mATX Combo $175
Kingston HyperX Blue 2x2GB 1600 CL9 1.5v link $25
Crucial M4 64GB SSD link $114
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Total + $10 Shipping to me: $518 (also $30) in rebates.

Should be enough to get a keyboard and mouse...

HP can shove it.


If anything. Pre-built desktop pcs are the worst kind of deals.

Get a laptop.
Edited by SpiritGear - 11/19/11 at 11:06pm
 
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They don't have one that I can take parts from. Ok to put this in context. I live in NJ this person lives in Brooklyn NJ ( a 3 hour+ drive depending on traffic) . Once this person gets this computer, I will not be able to help them out. I'm building this as a favor for someone. So for example if they have a mobo go within 7 months, me being a full time college student, I will not be able to do anything to help them. So this computer for most intents and purposes needs to be stable for as long as possible without my intervention.
The reason I ask about a pre-built is in the event parts go bad, they 1 person who can help them with all their needs and provide phone support and all that great stuff.
With a custom build, the warranty is usually longer than 1 year but they have to talk to separate people to get any warranty cases filled. And this person is not going to go inside of their computer and start pulling parts out and shipping them. If anything she is afraid to open the case (similar to how I wouldn't dare touch anything under the hood of my car cause I don't know what I'm doing).
As for the SSD 40GB won't be enough since windows takes up like 20 already and they are gonna have music and pictures. I already have a 500 GB drive that I can put in there.

In a situation like this I would probably tell them to do a prebuilt...unless they were willing to learn how to handle computer repair. Hopefully they would not need to...but if you aren't around a computer shop would probably take advantage of them. I would try to get at least a two year warranty on whatever they bought though.
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Personally i would go with a prebuilt system. In saying that do some research and find the best buy possible. It's alot less hassle for you. They will be able to get the computer then and there. Just a matter of plug it in and away they go. They will have the shop warranty which will allow them to take it back since they wont know what there dong.. Also a pre built will be easier to put in for a tax deductible if relevant. I wouldn't worry to much about the psu's in them as like you said they will be doing very light work. If there not overclocking and running high demanding software then they should be alright but look anyway its always better to be safe then sorry. . Yes a pre built system may turn out cheaper but it comes with alot more headaches. inc: finding all the right parts cheap. assembly, rma if u get a faulty part. installing windows and all drivers. and the list can go on lol

hope this helps
post #14 of 29
Nothing wrong with a pre-built. In the sub 500 dollar segment you can often get equivalent or better hardware, and certainly more hassle-free support than if you built it your self from scratch.

The only real downside is the massive amount of bloatware that comes with these systems in order to subsidize their cost. Personally, I never even boot to the install of Windows that comes pre-installed. My first action with prebuilt computers is to wipe the disc and install and OS from scratch.
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See the thing is, this is not for me. This is for me to give to someone and I will not be giving them support with this. The crappy psu isn't an issue since this isn't going to be doing anything that requires power to that degree. It just needs to be able to turn on. It won't be overclocked or anything. This is strictly for them to get on the internet and do word docs. Only reason the APU is there is cause it will help out with HD playback for like youtube or if for some reason light gaming which this person does not do. IF they do game its like facebook games.
I have no problem building it my self. I get enjoyment out of putting one together. But for such a basic computer that once I give it to them they are on their own with no support, would it be smarter for them to go with a pre-built in the event something does go wrong?

Use my build or one of the other sugested here, drop Win7, install Ubuntu or some other linux distro. Boom, you just made a comp $100 cheaper then HP and you can put that cash into better hardware if you want. Ubuntu 11 comes with Libre and FireFox, both are enough for those tasks.
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Ok. After reading this thread. Yes, building your own can be cheaper, or much better parts for the money. However, I completely understand your point on providing support for said product. Which in that case, I would go with a pre built.
What I would do, is if possible, check out local sales for Black Friday adds, and if you can. Snag a good deal then. Plus think about possible in-store support. Yes, I know, I'm probably going to get set on fire for saying that. However, having the ability for said person to bring it in, and have them fix it for free can take a load off your shoulder. Just if anything use that extra HDD you have, set it up as a external for backups of their system. In case something does go wrong.

More for your $$$$ = Build your own.
Ease of support = Pre Built.

BTW, heres a decent lil prebuilt: Gateway with a I3 for $459.99
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With Pre-built desktops, you still need to get a monitor (unless you already have one) and some input devices.

That's an additional ~$100.

For around $600 you can get a pretty nice laptop on Black Friday.
Today's laptops can handle everything OP needs, browsing/word processing/multimedia and light gaming.


Pros: Portable, ~3yr warranty and other support.

Cons: Less power (but is still more than enough).
Limited upgrades (but the OP's friend probably isnt going to do that anyways)
Limited lifespan.

[Edit]: Some more off topic thoughts
In the last couple years, the market has really shifted to
Laptop vs Performance Desktop.

Today's laptops can perform 100% of the tasks budget desktops are built for.
There really isn't a reason to get a any desktop unless you are an enthusiast seeking maximum performance.

Consumers are definitely trending towards mobile and the major companies are following suit.
In fact, there were rumors about HP wanting to sell its PC division a while back.

PCs wont die, but the market for them on the low end is definitely vaporizing.
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If it were me, I'd find some used components or an older pre-built on Craiglist. I've seen dual core Dell computers on CL for $100. For basic computing, that would be sufficient, and chances are they're former business computers that were upgraded, so they'll be in good shape.
   
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post #19 of 29
Just about the only reason to buy a prebuilt is if you're absolutely destitute. Not too long ago, I saw an old Dell Precision on eBay, fully working, with dual Conroe Xeons, 4GB of RAM and some 256MB QuadroFX video card for $80 Buy It Now, + $30 shipping. If I were poor as all hell and needed a desktop, I would've grabbed it in a heartbeat.
post #20 of 29
A prebuilt on sale makes more sense, but be aware support is not what it was. One year warranty and poor upgrade path.
newegg has a LENOVO H420 G620 Pentium, 4 GB, 1 TB, Keyboard and mouse, W7, $439, add monitor and speakers.
Should be able to add video card if needed.
Haven't been paying attention, I just like Lenovo Laptops,lol. Walmart usually has some good priced "all in one box" specials.
Be aware, if they have questions they will call you first.

Luck.
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