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actually i know QUITE a bit about the 5770 tyvm my wife has two of them in crossfire and im watching her play skyrim. But my question was to him all about price if he is getting 2 5770's for $120 it would be a wiser choice price wise

I'm sure you DO know a lot about 5770s, but I said you don't know anything about the 6850 based on this statement:
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well i would say a 6850 is slightly bettter than a 5770 at best i would almost think they are mostly equal.

Unless you've made an error here.
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And to that note i am going to say that the 5770 barely beats out the 5830 from what benchmarks and reviews i have seen.
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and clearly you know nothing about 5770, its DX11

Well that, I admit. I forgot the HD5000 series was DX11.

But I believe slight architecural improvements in the HD6000 series allows it to handle DX11 a lot better, making DX11 actually relevant.
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Well that, I admit. I forgot the HD5000 series was DX11.
But I believe slight architecural improvements in the HD6000 series allows it to handle DX11 a lot better, making DX11 actually relevant.


By saying making directX11 relevant, your basically implying that it doesn't really work on the 5 series, it works perfectly fine, the only major change in the 6 serries is it has a lot better tesselation, and higher ram im the higher end models. Now tessellation will help in most of the DX11 titles, which is why we have seen the improvements, but i wouldn't go as far to say a 6 series card makes it relevant.

Now my opinion on the subject at hand is. Why buy 2 cards if you can buy one, never buy old technology even if it is slightly cheaper, just having the slot there to expand and buy a secon 6850 when new series comes out lowering the current prices. Much better option.
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Honestly i have done alot of reviews and searching over 6850's thats how i ended up with my 6870. I could have taken the 5770's and crossfired them and gotten my wife a newer card but for the games i play i knew they werent going to be adequate. But i cant say the 6850 would crush a 5770 i have had a 5750 a 5770 and a 6870 now im my pc. It all depends on what he is really after..after all
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I would try and see if you could find a 5850 1st hand, BNIB, 2nd hand as that is definitely the best bang-for-buck you can get atm.

2 5850 Xtremes by Sapphire will outperform a GTX 580 by a mile and cost the same as a 560ti, well, at least for where I live in Singapore.
    
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post #17 of 20
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well i would say a 6850 is slightly bettter than a 5770 at best i would almost think they are mostly equal.
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And to that note i am going to say that the 5770 barely beats out the 5830
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Honestly i have done alot of reviews and searching over 6850's thats how i ended up with my 6870



Ok, TurboPanda and his lack of knowledge is getting annoying so I'm going to enlighten this thread with pure facts. HD 5770 has half the ROP's, meaning half of the pixel fillrate per clock than the HD 6800's.

506

Look, when overclocked, HD 6850 is very close to HD 6870.

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@OP

I run BF3 on lowest settings and average 60-80FPS with one 6850 card. (I can easily run Ultra with crossfire, but CF stutters too much right now until better drivers release)

I play Skyrim on High settings and average 60 FPS, but dip to 45FPS in the most GPU intensive situations. Also with one card.

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By saying making directX11 relevant, your basically implying that it doesn't really work on the 5 series, it works perfectly fine, the only major change in the 6 serries is it has a lot better tesselation, and higher ram im the higher end models. Now tessellation will help in most of the DX11 titles, which is why we have seen the improvements, but i wouldn't go as far to say a 6 series card makes it relevant.

Isn't tessellation the biggest change from DX10 to DX11?
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Honestly i have done alot of reviews and searching over 6850's thats how i ended up with my 6870. I could have taken the 5770's and crossfired them and gotten my wife a newer card but for the games i play i knew they werent going to be adequate. But i cant say the 6850 would crush a 5770 i have had a 5750 a 5770 and a 6870 now im my pc. It all depends on what he is really after..after all

According to reviews all around the web, the 6850 performs 35% better than a 5770.


So at lower fps levels, that's 30 FPS vs 40.5 FPS. At higher levels that's 60 FPS vs 81 FPS. The first situation is of course where you would notice the difference in gameplay.
Edited by SkillzKillz - 11/19/11 at 11:36pm
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well i would say a 6850 is slightly bettter than a 5770 at best i would almost think they are mostly equal.
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And to that note i am going to say that the 5770 barely beats out the 5830
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Honestly i have done alot of reviews and searching over 6850's thats how i ended up with my 6870
Ok, TurboPanda and his lack of knowledge is getting annoying so I'm going to enlighten this thread with pure facts. HD 5770 has half the ROP's, meaning half of the pixel fillrate per clock than the HD 6800's.

506
Look, when overclocked, HD 6850 is very close to HD 6870.
351

I don't see a HD 5770 in any of those... only 6770s they say are "5770's" but as stated earlier, they are different. I'm pretty sure when i was compareing 5770s and 6770s before the clock/mem speeds were different (one higher, one lower).

Anyway, 6850, future customization and upgradability is always key, and with those deals damric posted on the first page, I cant think of a reason not to go for the heavier card. Can always keep the old 5770 in there for 2nd/3rd monitors to keep the load off the 6850 if you wanted, all my GPUs run off the same driver doing that exact thing.
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I play Skyrim on High settings and average 60 FPS, but dip to 45FPS in the most GPU intensive situations. Also with one card.
I max everything on Skyrim but AA and AF (at x2 and x2) with my 5770 and its playable (~25-30fps). Admittedly its quite a bit OC'd, but still, not that great an example.
Edited by KyadCK - 11/19/11 at 11:44pm
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newegg has a diamond 6870 for 170 right now and thats without rebates.
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