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what if we all donated that money though, but once again everyone seems to ignore the fact that i asked out of curiousity and that I said I know its for good causes, seems like a few people on OCN have selective reading, and see what they wanna see.

It is simply that we get one (or more) of these "why do you fold" "what has folding cured" "folding uses electricity" posts on a very regular basis. This is a perfect place for the line "If you must ask you would not understand".
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It is simply that we get one (or more) of these "why do you fold" "what has folding cured" "folding uses electricity" posts on a very regular basis. This is a perfect place for the line "If you must ask you would not understand".

I would agree with most of what you have said PCCstudent. However, I cant agree with your last statement,

We gain understanding by asking questions and learning from experience or from people with experience. We do ourselves a disservice by not trying to influence people as to why we fold and give them that understanding.

Im not having a shot at you in particular, so please dont think Im hammering you but I have noticed that a lot of "why" questions are getting shot down before any discernable discussion has even started.

OCN is a forum for questions and learning and it does it very well. We should not feel threatened by the curious or the enquiring.
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why does everyone always seem to take everything to heart, ive notice these types of responses to often almost discouraging to come back to ocn for this reason alone
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post #24 of 41
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why does everyone always seem to take everything to heart, ive notice these types of responses to often almost discouraging to come back to ocn for this reason alone

I really cant say... but Im finding it increasingly annoying.
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Sorry, anything that even hints at the idea of global warming gets my blood boiling.

Amen, it is hard for me to refrain from posting how I really feel when the subject comes up, but this is not the forum for political debate, which is what the whole AGW(or whatever they call it today) pseudoscience is, politics.
Edited by Caleal - 11/21/11 at 12:39am
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post #26 of 41
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why does everyone always seem to take everything to heart, ive notice these types of responses to often almost discouraging to come back to ocn for this reason alone

I don't know about other forums, but the Folding section particullarly is very emotioanlly charged, due to the subject matter at hand. Many people here have had a run in with cancer, either personally, or through a loved one. Getting defensive is a normal reaction when someone may seem challenged, or threatened, with a concept such as this. Do not take defensive measures to heart, just realize what they are, and if you are interested, perhaps, changing the tone of a post or the wording used could help to diffuse the situation with a particular member. As you may have noticed throughout this thread, some were receptive, some were not, to the question at hand. This is just due to different personal perceptions of what you were asking. Simply, normal human behavior.

Now, as far as your question at hand, I have considered the electricity draw, and I have decided that my own contributions are worth more than a simple donation.

The way that I look at it is this, I have given donations to Make-A-Wish Foundation, annually for the past 6 years, since I got my first job. I've donated a couple of times to St. Jude's Children Hospital research (?). Neither one of these has helped me to feel very "involved" in the research being done. Folding has been a way for me to cope with the passing of my grandmother and aunt. I struggled with both of these deaths in my family, and I found that the research helped to bring me peace.

Now, that really doesn't answer your question, but let me bring this back to a donation. You mentioned $50 a month to a researcher. Say we sent it to Stanford, who run the folding project. Would we then expect Stanford to spend that $50 elsewhere, outside of the Folding project for research? Or should Stanford be running the project? Or perhaps, did you mean, sending it to a different research facility who are consuming less electricity? In that case, I think that if that would bring you more personal satisfaction, that is the correct method.

I'm not going to rationalize American power consumption, but I would say that I would stand behind my usage as I believe that the cause is noble.
 
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Id like to start by saying Stu im very sorry for your loss, along with anyone else that has lots family/friends, I too are in the same boat. What i ment by $50 i should of just said x amount, I just think that donating money to stanford, so they could set up and keep growing a folding farm themselves, Im sure people always think the more the better and im sure in this scenario its true. But if they could set up with an alternate source of power and that was the only source of power that the farm drew from it would be greener in the end, if at some point humans dont decide to change the way the earth is going it wont last forever, this goes for anything that has a negative effect on the earth. I wont be around to see its fall and neither will any of probably, but our FAMILY will be around regardless of when that happens. I drive a v8 truck which I know is harder on emissions then a 4cylinder hybrid, but this year ive only put on 6-10000 km as my way of cutting back. I live in nova scotia canada, 50 years ago the winters were crazy here from the research ive done, now its almost december and its still 10-20 C for highs a day, something has to be happening to our world to change climate that much in 50 years, but im sorry if my tone came off wrong in my question, its hard to find the real context of what people mean via the internet, I commend everyone that folds for doing your part, the thought just came to me yesterday and thought id ask smile.gif
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lol @ power consumption, the folders fold because its their contribution. Hopefully you wont be put in the emotional state that some of them have been left in from the subject of research.
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the folders fold because its their contribution

its been mentioned thanks for your input bud
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