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The Boinc rig MIGHT be running in time. But I doubt it unfortunately :/

I'm psyched for this again biggrin.gif
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So in passing is a Quadro 4000 any better than a graphics card ?

Or should I keep a beady eye on ebay to grab an ATI 5870 ( or two ! ) biggrin.gif

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Originally Posted by 2002dunx View Post

So in passing is a Quadro 4000 any better than a graphics card ?
Or should I keep a beady eye on ebay to grab an ATI 5870 ( or two ! ) biggrin.gif
dunx

Quadro cards don't do particularly well as far as I know. 5870's are capable of up to around 350k points per day and even more if overclocked on the right projects. I'd grab one or two if you can wink.gif
Edited by JY - 11/25/11 at 9:44am
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Well you did say to get two !

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Dunx, from what I've been able to gather, professional graphics cards are actually slower than most current gaming gpu's. Aside from the fact they usually have alot of memory, they seem to process slower, albeit probably more precise. While chattin' with ste\/e the other day, he indicated that a GTX 460 actually has as much processing power as the new nVidia Tesla units that go for $2500usd. I did a little lookin and it seems that the double precision computation capability has been hobbled by nVidia on the 4 series up, simply to boost Tesla sales. Imagine what these cards could do without someone trying to sabotage them! So I would think, (unless you need the software support and memory offered from a professional card), that a consumer gaming gpu is the way to go.

Taken from a different hardware sight that I will not mention, unless pm'd:


Posted 28 March 2010 - 02:54 PM

The following answer I received a few months ago from James Wang, a technical marketing analyst from NVIDIA:



Q: In the GeForce family, double-precision throughput has been reduced to 25% of the full design. Was this decision made to discourage the use of these products for professional use (where Quadro and Tesla are targeted?) Considering the fused support of single- and double-precision calculations in the CUDA cores, how was this change even applied?

A: Yes, full-speed double precision performance is a feature we reserve for our professional customers. Consumer applications have little use for double precision, so this does not really affect GeForce users. Having differentiated features and pricing is actually fairer for all. Given the option of enabling all professional features on GeForce and having gamers pay for them, or disabling them on GeForce and offering a more compelling price, we feel the latter is the better choice.

Regarding the second part of the question, the architecture is designed to support this kind of configuration.
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Tesla and other professional products use ECC memory and other higher end hardware/software functions. You pay for the extra reliability and professional grade specifications where absolute perfection is more important than absolute top speed.

They are really not the same animal and can't really be compared except in general terms. They are completely different hardware etc. same as the difference between a i7-980x and XEON X5670.

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ECC and software compatability, support for a variety of modeling/rendering programs. BUT.... there also isn't any need to "dumb down the cards." nVidia straight up admitts on their own websight that they only enable 1/4 DP on "consumer" cards.


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ECC and software compatability, support for a variety of modeling/rendering programs. BUT.... there also isn't any need to "dumb down the cards." nVidia straight up admitts on their own websight that they only enable 1/4 DP on "consumer" cards.
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Here are a couple links.... good reading. Keep in mind that nVida uses the exact same cuda technology on one hand to market to people like us, (the typical consumer), then on the other had, disables HALF of the half DP capabiltiy buillt into the Fermi architecture, (just to increase Tesla sales. After all,..... who is gonna pay $2500 for something that will DESTROY it for $599? [MSI GTX 5803Gb Lightning]).

Guys at team SETI.usa got realllllly p.o.'d when they found out about this!biggrin.gif (post #32 and down) That is some good reading, too.

http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=164417

http://www.nvidia.com/object/why-choose-tesla.html

Comparison between Quadro, Tesla, and GTX:

http://jeffpatton.net/2010/11/gtxquadrotesla-my-opinion-on-todays-gpu-selections-for-rendering/

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