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I tried to google this.. i couldn't find any benchmarks at all.

I read on some forums that i7 is better because it has quad core... but most games only use 2 cores this days. Judging from the prices the i7 seems to be overpriced.

Also people have advised me to go for the i5, as its cheaper and more suitable for gaming?

Laptop prices in my country:

ASUS G74x w/ i7 + GTX 560M : 94k = $21xx+
MSI GT780 w/ i7 + GTX 560M: 94k $21xx+

MSI GT780 w/ i5 + GTX 560M: 55k =$12xx+
ASUS G53x w/ i5 + GTX 460M: 75k = $17xx+

Looking at this prices.. the best choice seems to be MSI GT780 w/ i5.

The difference in pricing between i5 vs i7 is just too big here... what do you guys think ?
Should i go for the MSI GT780 w/ i5 ? or just wait for the i7 prices to go down..
 
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When it comes to gaming, the most practical processor is the i5 line-up. Same goes for desktops, any time there's a thread where a gamer is deciding between i5 and i7, majority of the posts recommend the i5. Only heavily threaded applications will see any benefit from the additional power of the i7
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Originally Posted by mingqi53 View Post

When it comes to gaming, the most practical processor is the i5 line-up. Same goes for desktops, any time there's a thread where a gamer is deciding between i5 and i7, majority of the posts recommend the i5. Only heavily threaded applications will see any benefit from the additional power of the i7

Thank you for the quick reply!
In the coming weeks i will be on the move a-lot, and i might not get to use my desktop anymore, that's why i am trying to decide to buy a laptop. Checking some benchmarks only 100 point different from i5-2410 vs i7-2620m w/ 3dmarks
 
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I would go with the GT780 with the I5 setup, its going to perform similarly to the I7 due to hyperthreading, it will be a barely noticeable difference. The extra 2 physical cores are not worth $1000.
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Originally Posted by Mattb2e View Post

I would go with the GT780 with the I5 setup, its going to perform similarly to the I7 due to hyperthreading, it will be a barely noticeable difference. The extra 2 physical cores are not worth $1000.

Thanks for the reply..

the final specs for the GT780 w/ i7 is

GT780x-i5185+
Core i5 - 2410M 2.30 GHZ
8GB DDRIII (4GBx2)
500GB 17.3" FHD (1920x1080)
NVIDIA Geforce GTX560M 1.5GB DDR5 VRAM
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WIFI 802.11N 9-Cell

I think the @ 55k/$12xx the price is right?
 
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Thanks for the reply..
the final specs for the GT780 w/ i7 is
GT780x-i5185+
Core i5 - 2410M 2.30 GHZ
8GB DDRIII (4GBx2)
500GB 17.3" FHD (1920x1080)
NVIDIA Geforce GTX560M 1.5GB DDR5 VRAM
DVDRW
WIFI 802.11N 9-Cell
I think the @ 55k/$12xx the price is right?

Sounds like a deal to me. Most "desktop replacement" Laptops are in that price range, and it seems pretty reasonable. $2100 on the other hand, is outrageous.
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http://ark.intel.com/products/52224

http://ark.intel.com/products/52231/Intel-Core-i7-2620M-Processor-%284M-Cache-2_70-GHz%29

They both have 2 physical cores and hyperthreading. The i7 2620m has a much higher stock setting and a lot of extra instruction sets as compared to the i5 though. I would still go with the MSI with the GTX 560M and i5 2410m anyways, just because processor usually isn't the bottleneck in games. I recently bought an Asus G53 on sale with a i5 2410m and GTX 560M and it runs everything I throw at it amazingly well.
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for the price difference, i would go with the MSI+ i5

the 780 is a really nice laptop
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http://ark.intel.com/products/52224
http://ark.intel.com/products/52231/Intel-Core-i7-2620M-Processor-%284M-Cache-2_70-GHz%29
They both have 2 physical cores and hyperthreading. The i7 2620m has a much higher stock setting and a lot of extra instruction sets as compared to the i5 though. I would still go with the MSI with the GTX 560M and i5 2410m anyways, just because processor usually isn't the bottleneck in games. I recently bought an Asus G53 on sale with a i5 2410m and GTX 560M and it runs everything I throw at it amazingly well.

Well then that would explain why they perform so similarly, sucks that its not a quad, as it should be. I didnt realize that the I7's rated less than 45 watts were duals. Apparently you need to get a 45w model in order to get a quad with HT. Nice tactic Intel, not.
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i7 dual-cores are ridiculously overpriced unless you need ridiculously high performance on 2 cores. In comparison, Intel's i7-2670QM costs about as much (retail), and it's a quad-core with dual-core clocks the same as the i5-2410m. Anyways going with i5 is a good choice, and if you ever want to upgrade down the line, a quad-core should be ~$300ish, maybe less.

EDIT: Also, Intel's quad-core i7's ALWAYS have the -QM suffix, without exception. Next-gen Ivy Bridge quads will have a 35W TDP.. so don't judge on TDPs. I'd imagine they'll still use -QM though since they're keeping SB numbering, but just using 3xxx instead of 2xxx.
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