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I was looking at this thread http://www.overclock.net/t/1167549/1000-first-time-pc-gamers-build
and found a lot of seemingly great advice.

I have come to this build for now:

Any critique's would be great.

PS - $100 SeaSonic X Series X650 Gold 650w
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151088

CPU - Intel Core i5 2500K
+
Mobo - Gigabyte Z68 UD3H
= $270 @ Microcenter

Memory - G.SKILL Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 - $44
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231416&nm_mc=OTC-Froogle&cm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Memory+%28Desktop+Memory%29-_-G.SKILL-_-20231416

Optical Drive - $25
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7188842&CatId=89&SRCCODE=LINKSHARE&cm_mmc_o=-ddCjC1bELltzywCjC-d2CjCdwwp&AffiliateID=iFudSkud_Rc-vhzdU8yILF4LlBnTGrE_PQ

Case - CM HAF 912 - $60
OR
Carbide Series 400R Mid Tower ATX - $80

Cooler - CM Hyper 212+ - $25

I found two HP S2331 monitors for ~$50 each at Walmart so I want to use those if I can with this build. @ 23''
http://www.amazon.com/HP-S2331-23-Inch-Diagonal-Monitor/dp/B003FMUL8G


Any suggestions/improvements you guys see for these parts? Which case would you buy out of the two? Opinion on the monitors?


GPU - Looking for something that will last, but value is important too.
It's a gaming computer but I'm only going to be playing DotA2/GuildWars2/Diablo3 most likely.


HDD - Looking for anything ~500gb, value once again important if possible

Any recommendations for the GPU or HDD? I can wait a good 3-4 weeks to purchase these parts, maybe more if a compelling reason arises.

$524 for everything but HDD and GPU
Max budget is $1000 but any savings would be great.


Thanks again.
Edited by sinfiery - 11/20/11 at 9:41pm
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Get corsair carbide series, a corsair tx650, gtx 460, HDDs are highway robbery these days but this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145299. Free DVD drive too wink.gif
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post #3 of 17
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Originally Posted by Osea23 View Post

Get corsair carbide series, a corsair tx650, gtx 460, HDDs are highway robbery these days but this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145299. Free DVD drive too wink.gif

I'll go for the corsair box

Is the tx650 really better than the SeaSonic X Series X650 Gold 650w?
Regular price on the seasonic is higher but I guess that doesn't mean much lol.


The gtx 460 is barely cheaper then the Radeon HD 6850, and this website http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu_list.php
seems to indicate the 6850 is a bit better.

Why would you choose the 460 over the gtx? Is the performance that similar?

Link to HDD didn't work :X

Thanks.
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The deal for the Seasonic ends tomorrow.
You might not be able to find something like that in the near future.

If you get a case like Corsair's 400R you should be able to have enough room for cable management and wont need a Modular PSU.
Also you don't really need a 80+ Gold. Just make sure the reviews are good.
So you could get whatever is a good deal at the time.

Likewise, the Microcenter deal doesn't last forever. Its a good idea to find out when that promotion ends.
The deal is also in store pickup.

If you can't get this. The i3 2100 is a great gaming chip and you could get away with just the stock heatsink and a cheap H67. Will easily save you a bundle and you wont notice too much difference from the 2500k in gaming (other than not being able to overclock).

For the optical drive you could buy that on Newegg. Any generic SATA OD should be fine.\

As for GPU's, a HD 6850 should be enough. But check out this article "Best Graphics Card for the Money: November 2011" to find out the best GPU for your budget.
Since you could use the i5's integrated GPU, you could also wait for the games and newer video cards to come out before buying.

I'd also recommend you get a SSD instead of a HDD if you don't have one lying around right now.
Their prices haven't moved up much. You could always add extra storage later.
People on this forum like Crucial M4s and Samsung 830s.

I don't know much about monitors. Could you link me to the Walmart deal? I'd like to check that out biggrin.gif
Edited by SpiritGear - 11/20/11 at 10:37pm
 
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post #5 of 17
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Originally Posted by SpiritGear View Post

The deal for the Seasonic ends tomorrow.
You might not be able to find something like that in the near future.
If you get a case like Corsair's 400R you should be able to have enough room for cable management and wont need a Modular PSU.
Also you don't really need a 80+ Gold. Just make sure the reviews are good.
So you could get whatever is a good deal at the time.
Likewise, the Microcenter deal doesn't last forever. Its a good idea to find out when that promotion ends.
The deal is also in store pickup.
For the optical drive you could buy that on Newegg. Any generic SATA OD should be fine.\
As for GPU's, a HD 6850 should be enough. But check out this article "Best Graphics Card for the Money: November 2011" to find out the best GPU for your budget.
Since the Gigabyte Z68 has integrated graphics, you could wait for the games and newer video cards to come out before buying.
I'd also recommend you get a SSD instead of a HDD if you don't have one lying around right now. Their prices haven't moved up much.
People on this forum like Crucial M4s and Samsung 830s.
I don't know much about monitors. Could you link me to the Walmart deal? I'd like to check that out biggrin.gif

My parents have a microcenter near their house and they can pick it up, then I can pick it up in 2 weeks when I go back. Might end up ordering it tonight.

I can buy the seasonic deal right now..just wanted to make sure it was ideal for this build.
But if it isn't necessary, I guess I should hold off on that and just find a decently reviewed power supply for cheaper instead.

I'll check out the article, thanks. 6850 is probably where I stand right now.

SSD's are tempting, I'll definitely look into it. Wasn't sure about the price but comparing it to normal HDD's, it isn't that different in prices even if the size is considerably different.


I'm afraid the Walmart deal was a pricing error at our store lol..

I was working there and the monitor was priced @ $50 even though it cost the store $210 to buy I think..so it was more of a price mistake then a deal


Thanks for the response.
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never go wrong with a seasonic PSU grab it while you can...

Im not so sure you can OC a Gigabyte Z68 UD3H might want to ask around to be sure im not familiar with the H models I'm thinking they are the ones with OB video and don't OC as well but for 50bucks I guess its not bad

maybe a http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157271
and grab a CPU/GPU combo http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.749690
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The corsair TX650 v2 is generally recommended and you might be able to combine it with the 400R for a combo deal.

Rosewill HIVE-650 and OCZ ZS 650 are built on similar platforms and are also recommended.
The HIVE is modular and went for ~$64 /w free shipping.

My logic is: if HDD's cost as much as a SDD. I might as well get a SSD.
Then again I've also got tons of storage already.

@ the above post. The UD3H is a 6 Phase and won't overclock as high as other motherboards.
This review says people should be able to get it to 4.5GHz though.

@OP Microcenter has lots of combos deals with other motherboards as well. Though i think you'll get 8 phases at most for $20-40 more.
Edited by SpiritGear - 11/20/11 at 11:10pm
 
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post #8 of 17
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never go wrong with a seasonic PSU grab it while you can...
Im not so sure you can OC a Gigabyte Z68 UD3H might want to ask around to be sure im not familiar with the H models I'm thinking they are the ones with OB video and don't OC as well but for 50bucks I guess its not bad
maybe a http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157271
and grab a CPU/GPU combo http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.749690
The other PSU's mentioned all seem to cost at least $80 so I think I'll just spend the 100 and go for the seasonic PSU while the deal lasts.

The motherboard on it's own is selling for ~$150 so the deal seems great combined with the processor at microcenter.
Apparently a couple people haven't had much trouble OCing this processor and mobo combo.
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/269515-29-2500k-gigabyte-z68x-ud3h
So that should be fine, and I can keep using the microcenter processor+mobo savings.
Quote:
Originally Posted by SpiritGear View Post

The corsair TX650 v2 is generally recommended and you might be able to combine it with the 400R for a combo deal.
Rosewill HIVE-650 and OCZ ZS 650 are built on similar platforms and are also recommended.
The HIVE is modular and went for ~$64 /w free shipping.
My logic is: if HDD's cost as much as a SDD. I might as well get a SSD.
Then again I've also got tons of storage already.
@ the above post. The UD3H is a 6 Phase and won't overclock as high as other motherboards.
This review says people should be able to get it to 4.5GHz though.
@OP Microcenter has lots of combos deals with other motherboards as well. Though i think you'll get 8 phases at most for $20-40 more.


I couldn't find an ideal combo. I think I'll just get the seasonic @ $100. It seems to be the best PSU and I'm willing to spend the extra ~$20 for that.
The HIVE might be nice @ $64 versus the $100, but that isn't a large difference in price.
The case is $80 at microcenter hot deals atm alone.

Yeah, I think I'm going to go for a SSD. Space would be nice but there's always ways around that. The added benefits of the SSD are pretty amazing from what I've heard too. Good advice.

I think I'll be satisfied with the motherboard even if it is somewhat limited in clocking. I can't imagine finding a better value then that combination.
Would the 8 phases be worth the $20-40 more? I really doubt I would need the extra speed on OCing higher but my only concern is any future upgrades with 6 vs 8 phases.


@ that review you posted really seems to have sold me on the motherboard. It isn't perfect but for my purposes I think it's very ideal.
Edited by sinfiery - 11/20/11 at 11:25pm
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This is the best SSD I could find for the price with very limited research.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=20-226-151&SortField=0&SummaryType=0&Pagesize=10&PurchaseMark=&SelectedRating=-1&VideoOnlyMark=False&VendorMark=&IsFeedbackTab=true&Page=2#scrollFullInfo


Going to sleep now, will continue looking for more tomorrow.


If you know of any good value SSD's, I'd love to see them.


Thanks.
post #10 of 17
Crucial M4 64GB About $5 more than the mushkin. Went for about ~85 as a shellshocker
Highly regarded on these forums. TBH i haven't done much research on the M4s (just jumped on the bandwagon).

Tom's does a Best For the Money w/ SSDs
I think the SATA III would indicate higher performance/throughput though.
Edited by SpiritGear - 11/21/11 at 8:16am
 
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