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im planning to buy MSI R5670 1gb 128bit video card..
did video cards voltage are connected to the board voltages?. as well as the TEMP?.

What's your budget for the card? No, video card voltage/temps are independent of the board.
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2000 pesos here in phil. smile.gif
thats MSI R5670 really want that Vcard. wink.gif

your from US so i think its 47-50$. smile.gif
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Hey, sir..

how Can i Lower MAX TDP of my Board?. smile.gif

and how can i know that my Vrm are already hot? and cannot carry large amount of Watts?.
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Hey, sir..
how Can i Lower MAX TDP of my Board?. smile.gif
and how can i know that my Vrm are already hot? and cannot carry large amount of Watts?.

Make sure you keep Cool ' n' Quiet enabled, that will prevent unnecessary heating when you're doing menial tasks such as surfing the web. Also, the BIOS has a nasty habit of setting a voltage higher than what's required for stable operation, when kept on auto. Use a program such as K10STAT to lower the stock operating voltage for the chip in small increments, until you reach the lowest stable volts. That should lower the TDP considerably. On stock speeds, the stock voltage for my X4 is 1.28-1.3v. I lowered the volts to 1.2v (completely stable). Temps dropped by 5 degrees and my TDP went from 125w down to 115w.
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Uhhmm..

what is the pros and cons of Lowering the TDP?

my Core VID is 1.450v and my max TDP is 126W
can you suggest what volts i will apply.

you really got lucky about your specs cuz, i saw that your board is supporting only
3+1 phase & 95W ... thumb.gif


is there Other Option you can prefer?.

i think That one is a good Idea. smile.gif
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Uhhmm..
what is the pros and cons of Lowering the TDP?
my Core VID is 1.450v and my max TDP is 126W
can you suggest what volts i will apply.
you really got lucky about your specs cuz, i saw that your board is supporting only
3+1 phase & 95W ... thumb.gif
is there Other Option you can prefer?.
i think That one is a good Idea. smile.gif

I keep my quad on stock speeds so as to not stress the board, plus i have an active fan running over the VRMs. WAY better than passive cooling thumb.gif

Are you running the chip as a quad or tri?
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Uhhmm..
what is the pros and cons of Lowering the TDP?
my Core VID is 1.450v and my max TDP is 126W
can you suggest what volts i will apply.
you really got lucky about your specs cuz, i saw that your board is supporting only
3+1 phase & 95W ... thumb.gif
is there Other Option you can prefer?.
i think That one is a good Idea. smile.gif

I doubt you'll be at 126W TDP at that voltage. As well as unlocking cores raising the TDP, so does raising the voltage, and overclocking.
You raise the voltage, you raise the TDP.
You raise the clock speed, you raise the TDP. (But not as much)
Pro's of lowering the TDP (by lower voltage/clock speed, is less current flowing through the CPU and in turn the VRMs, which reduces the heat generated, lowers the max current drawn, and reduces the possibility of failure.
Cons of lowering the TDP (via voltage/speed, is less performance, as the CPU will be running slower that it could at a high TDP.

TBH, I would unlock the core, and try lowering the voltage till it gets unstable, then bump it back up a couple of notches. This may get you nearer 100W TDP, reducing stress on the VRMs and running your CPU cooler. You may not be overclocking the chip, but the extra core should more than compensate. I would make sure it passes prime95 tests for 24hours before declaring it stable. I had a chip throw an error 22 hours in when overclocking it, and it needed a little more Vcore.

BTW current wisdom is more cores doesn't mean more performance in gaming, as games don't seem to be good at multithreading yet, If its for games, you may be better locking the core and overclocking the 3 cores for better game performance.
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i dont agree. overclocking will raise the tdp much higher then unlocking will. also more and more games are made for not dual but quad cores, and bf3 is made for six (it runs as well on a 6200 then a 3570k) as can of cexpect four core to be a new standerd for gaming computer in a year or two and will see first amds then intels six core become average for gaming in maybe 2-3 years. looking at the tdp your going for, it would seem tri core at 3.6/7 vs quad core at 3.3/4,,,,,i would pick the quad
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i dont agree. overclocking will raise the tdp much higher then unlocking will. also more and more games are made for not dual but quad cores, and bf3 is made for six (it runs as well on a 6200 then a 3570k) as can of cexpect four core to be a new standerd for gaming computer in a year or two and will see first amds then intels six core become average for gaming in maybe 2-3 years. looking at the tdp your going for, it would seem tri core at 3.6/7 vs quad core at 3.3/4,,,,,i would pick the quad

Overclocking will raise the tdp more than unlocking? Are you sure of that? That doesn't seem logical... The logical would be that unlocking cores would raise the tdp way more than a sligthly oc.

About the numbers of cores. When going from 3 to 4 cores, it gains me quite many fps in games like bf, witcher 2. So it seems that an tri on 3.2Ghz is bottlenecking my gtx 460. Else i would not have got so many fps by oc the cpu, right? Unlocking and oc the cpu to 3.6Ghz and oc the ram on my gpu gives me about 15 more fps
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