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ruarcs30 are your temps are "cpu temps"? i.e. *not* core temps, is that correct? (if i understand right, your core temps will be unreadable after unlock)

if so, your temps bear no relation at all to mine! i get 46C "cpu temp" at idle, all the way up to high 60's when under load. i guess my cooling might be defective frown.gif even with no OC, my idle cpu temp is in the 40's. ambient temp is probably on the high side, but i can't believe it's that far off the 20-22 you mention.

for sure i need to re-lock this core to compare the temp's when running as stock...
post #302 of 355
Yes, I mean cpu temp. Socket temp. But we have not the same cooling wink.gif And Im using push/pull whit awsome airflow. using 870a-ud3 and when people gets 81-82-83 degrees on their NB, im staying at 77-78-79. Cpu socket temp is affected by amtient temps and airflow(if the air is not mutch hotter than what your cputemp is)

I ques that you can see what core temp you get on for.ex 40 degrees cpu temp and compare it to x3 and x4. Then you "know" what diffrence it will read when unlocked.

But when this cpu it is the cpu socket temp, it is an physical reading, not only matematcis done acording to load,voltage,cpu temp.
So to say it short. Keep cpu temp under 60 degrees and you should be fine, no need to worry about what your core temp is!

Not familiar whit your cooler, but are you sure it is properly attached, no air bubles between? Or fans settup right? These temps are "almost" as high as I got whit stock cooler...

Edit: Acording to people who knows electronics, running it at 70degrees will not kill it very fast, but it is not very healty and can lead to unstability etc, but it is actually not an immediate danger if you run it like that for a month. Mix this high temps whit very high voltage, then you will kill it fast, as i understood it. The guy I talked to used so many words I didnt understand, but he is working in development so he know whats his talking about. As he sayed, remeber that this is hardware witch is made to last at least 10 years running 24/7 so it takes alittle to kill them in a matter of days or hours, witch some seems to belive.

Got a friend running his phenom 965 on 1.65v, and he has been running it for like that for over 1 year now. People claim he will kill it very fast, yet still it delivers without getting unstalbe or require more voltage. His doing it as an "project" to see how mutch a chip can take of voltage over time if temps are kept decent.
Strange guy, but he does try thing for himself before he belive it
Edited by ruarcs30 - 7/19/12 at 2:02am
post #303 of 355
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But why call it an phenom b 50 when it clearly is an athlon. Make more sence to call it athlon x4 b50 or somthing like that,hehe, not phenom. Lol

The "B" stands for the production code of the chip. Let me put it this way, AMD produced a bunch of chips, all marked with a specific code name. Now take 4 quads for example, 3 out of the 4 quads passed AMD's rigorous quality checks while one didn't (or maybe it was perfectly good but AMD decided to sell it as a dual/tri in order to meet demand). So the one's AMD decided to sell of as quads had their code names changed (for eg 945, 955 etc). The other chip AMD decided not to sell of as a quad but as a tri just had an overlapping code name put over the original (like pre-unlocking my chip was the X3 445 when it was actually based on the Deneb die). Once i unlocked it, the code reverted to the factory-default one which AMD had marked it with in the first place.

As far as your chip being an Athlon B50 goes, AMD was just too lazy to put in the correct name and just mass-implemented a common term "Phenom" to all unlocked chips..even though some were still Athlons biggrin.gif
Edited by PunkX 1 - 7/19/12 at 2:13am
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Haha! I see. I was "hoping" that it was an phenom witch had an faulty l3cache or something like that perhaps and was locked down to 3 cores and sold as an athlon, when it realy was an phenom. Not that it matters, it uses the gtx 460 768 pritty mutch 100% Multiplayer bf3 whit 4xmsaa,hbao and medium/high at 40+fps, only in 1600x900 though :-)
Edited by ruarcs30 - 7/19/12 at 2:30am
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So i gues that my max temp is 72 and not 62 then, seens it is an athlon and not an phenom.

I also read that you adviced people to go by core temp at this k8/k10chips, not cpu temp, but it is in fact the cpu temp witch matters on these chips.

The core temps was pritty mutch usless acording to amd
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So i gues that my max temp is 72 and not 62 then, seens it is an athlon and not an phenom.
I also read that you adviced people to go by core temp at this k8/k10chips, not cpu temp, but it is in fact the cpu temp witch matters on these chips.
The core temps was pritty mutch usless acording to amd

Nope, core temps matter more. Here's a general idea:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1128821/amd-temp-information-and-guide
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Nope, core temps matter more. Here's a general idea:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1128821/amd-temp-information-and-guide

"Going by what the author of "Core Temp" has stated and by what we've learned from AMD Tech Support, right now if I were you I would go by the "CPU Temp" to be cautious until we get absolute rock solid confirmation. What we do know absolutely though is that A)Tcase = the set of thermistors in the CPU package. Tcore = the individual core temperatures derived by using a formula and the closest Tcase thermistors. TJunction = the thermistor underneath the socket on the motherboard. Now how that correlates to the various "TMPIN" etc readings in the various software programs is the grey area that I and others are really only guessing at or using a logical assumption to figure out. I'm emailing MB manufacturers to find out which labels are attached to which readings coming from the CPU and I'll make sure to update this thread when I get an answer."

Im telling you, you got it wrong....

As has the thread you linked me been made aware of. If you are trying to find your maximum safe operation temp, you need to use socket temp,hehehe
Edited by ruarcs30 - 7/19/12 at 7:15am
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thanks again guys! i now have my unlocked and OC'd cpu temp down to 36C idle ... much healthier!

seems that the only difference was my ambient temp -- i put the aircon on full blast and also took of the sides of the case to see if it could help the airflow ... seems much better overall.

i still can't get beyond 3.4Ghz with the unlocked core on vcore of 1.52V... might try pushing the voltage up some more, i see what punkx means about this propus needing a lots of volts!
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