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Well id love if you could help me pick some stuff out. And those ranges do sound about right for me. I really don't want to get complicated with amps so i guess id rather stick with a powered sub.=o

It's no harder to setup than PC speakers. You plug your amp (or receiver) into the sound card. Speakers into the amp (or receiver). And the powered subwoofer into the amp (or receiver). if you can match left and right, and can see the difference between red and black, you can handle it easily. wink.gif

What budget would you be looking at for speakers? A good budget 2.1 setup with a mini amp, bookshelfs, and a good sub can start as low as around $230 plus wiring (add another $10-15 for wiring). Probably even under $200 if we went with a smaller subwoofer.
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Hmmm, id think the 300-400 range, i just want lots of crisp bass.

Edit: and now that i think of it, i use a home theater amp for my xbox speakers. It's pretty old so i don't think it would do the job but it was easy.
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Hmmm, id think the 300-400 range, i just want lots of crisp bass.

Edit: and now that i think of it, i use a home theater amp for my xbox speakers. It's pretty old so i don't think it would do the job but it was easy.

Well, if you could reuse that receiver, that could save you some money there. Depends on what it is. Got a model number? You could always reuse your Edifiers as your XBox speakers. wink.gif
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Alrighty. Do you want just 2.1, or 2.1 with the ability to add 5.1 later? Meaning, do you want a mini desktop amplifier for the speakers, or a full blown receiver?

The one you have likely won't work very well with good speakers. It'll work, but if its already on its way out, then might as well just leave it be.
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I'll just stick with 2.1, if i got 5.1 with my computer situation it'd be pointless.
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I'll just stick with 2.1, if i got 5.1 with my computer situation it'd be pointless.

*Cracks knuckles....*

Alright, so here's what I came up with:
Dayton Audio DTA-100a 50w x 2 mini desktop amplifier - $90
BIC Venturi DV62si 6.5" Bookshelf Speakers - $111
Dayton SUB120 12" 150w subwoofer - $100 (practically a STEAL at this price)
OR
BIC Formula F12 12" 150w subwoofer - $200

Final price (before wiring see below) - $301 with the SUB120
Final price (before wiring see below) - $401 with the BIC Formula F12


The subwoofers:
The Dayton SUB120 is going to be a very VERY excellent bang for your buck. Those subs normally cost $180. It appears they're clearing out old stock to make room for a new model (the SUB1200). Don't quote me on that, but that's the only reason I can think of as to why they're so cheap now. The SUB120 is a great budget subwoofer, and it'll be very linear sounding (every note will be close to the same output). It's a very clean sounding subwoofer and won't disappoint in a small / medium room.

The BIC Formula F12 is going to get a little bit muddy at higher frequencies (not a problem, you should use a low crossover point with this system, and I'll get to that later). It should do a little bit better on super low notes, and it might even be a little bit louder. It will move a little more air than the Dayton does, due to having a slightly better subwoofer driver in it.

I'd personally grab the BIC Formula, since it seems you want some serious bass. wink.gif

You'll also need as a guess, 50 feet of speaker wire. Grab some 14 gauge if you can, just to be safe. You'll also need a 3.5mm to RCA cable. Keep in mind the subwoofer is pretty large, and it would sound best in a corner of the room. Even better if it is an outside of the house corner.

Wiring:
3.5mm to RCA cable - $0.76
50 feet of 14 gauge wire - $12.87
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For the BIC sub, i assume you ment 475W instead of 150W. Also, do you think it'll look weird with bookshelf speakers there instead of like computer speakers? And seeing as i really do want some serious sub, ill go for the BIC. hmmm, so that amp is simliar to i guess my volume nob i use for my eddifiers?

Also, how exactly do you judge a sub, based on the frequency's or the watts or what?
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For the BIC sub, i assume you ment 475W instead of 150W. Also, do you think it'll look weird with bookshelf speakers there instead of like computer speakers? And seeing as i really do want some serious sub, ill go for the BIC. hmmm, so that amp is simliar to i guess my volume nob i use for my eddifiers?

Also, how exactly do you judge a sub, based on the frequency's or the watts or what?

I meant 150w. It's 150w RMS rated. 475w is the "peak" rating, and its a pointless number. They could have claimed 1,000w peak and still been accurate. The RMS power rating (or continuous) is what you want to judge parts by. wink.gif 150w RMS is a lot of power for a subwoofer honestly.

Judging subs, the best way is good reviews. Parts Express reviews are generally spot on, as most of the people that write them are experienced home theater builders, and they even build their own speaker systems.

Frequency response is another important thing, along with power (RMS). Pay closer attention to the LOWER end of the frequency response though, as you'll want to have the subwoofer stop around 60-80Hz anyway. Another thing, is how much the woofer will move, that BIC has a larger surround (the outer part of the woofer), which tells me it's going to move a good bit more than the Dayton. If it moves more, it'll hit lower easier.

There's really TONS of things to keep in mind with subwoofers, but those are the BASICS. I've owned both the SUB120 and the F12 at one time (I only heard the F12, never bought one yet). In my home, the F12 went lower, and was a little bit louder overall than the Dayton. The Dayton didn't disappoint though one bit, and I was happy to own it for the year I had it.
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I really want some serious bass, and i really don't know how much 150W is so you think that'll be good? =D Also thanks for explaining, really helps.
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