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Your not using any antivirus and how do you judge without even trying out. Some people are always scared to click on any short link posted on twitters or other sites. I'm always a happy person to click them because i have MSE biggrin.gif

Even better: don't bother with twitter to begin with!
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No, I'm not trolling. I haven't run an AV on any of my systems since 1998 or so, except for maybe once or twice a year I install one and do a scan (and then uninstall it). But so far, in the last 13 years, I haven't had a single virus show up.

Do you have enough experience with it to criticize it?

I've had a pretty positive experience with MSE: no false positives, a couple detections (on a family's computer), and pretty lightweight (on reasonably new machines, i.e. sig rig and an Athlon II x2). Updates are pretty unobtrusive; I like MSE.
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Even better: don't bother with twitter to begin with!

love this. agree 100%, but that's for a different thread.

But I run MSE because i never knows it's there and it doesn't seem to take up much space, and i haven't gotten a virus since 1994 when i first got internet (AOL v2.0). Just better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it, i suppose.
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I Love how people that profess to not using antivirus always give off a 'Holier than thou' vibe. Like they are the only 'clean' ones on the internet and the rest of us with our dirty websites and dirty virus infected computers are the only ones that need antivirus. Like it's some kind of sin.

 

Seriously, if you don't like AV products, don't use AV products, and haven't used a specific AV product enough to give an opinion... please don't give an opinion. All you are doing by giving such a baseless opinion, is trolling with the view to start some kind of flaming.

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I Love how people that profess to not using antivirus always give off a 'Holier than thou' vibe. Like they are the only 'clean' ones on the internet and the rest of us with our dirty websites and dirty virus infected computers are the only ones that need antivirus. Like it's some kind of sin.

+1

Typically these are the same guys you find in a computer store who will give you a 20 minute schpeal about how this hardware is garbage, that hardware is infallible, such and such company only makes useless software and how their system is setup perfectly. They've been around the block and seen it all and, despite very little first-hand experience, obviously know enough to bash it.


OT: Honestly, I have used MSE since it was first released (not sure if it was beta or not). It was when I had 4gb of ram and now I have 6gb. I never notice it using too many resources, or clogging my system. I've had a few close call with viruses on old CD's I had or USBs passed around by friends and it's always come out awesome. Unless someone gets their AV free from their ISP, I pretty much tell them to not bother with anything but MSE.
    
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I like MSE. I have been using it on all my systems for a year or two. It keeps my families computers mostly safe and they don't have to deal with the near-constant popups and crap from norton/mcaffee/whatever. It updates with windows update too, so I don't have to teach old people how to update two different pieces of software.

I never really used an anti-virus (I swore I was too good to get a virus, because I knew better!) until I finally got a really nasty one that almost cost me some very important files that I had created only very recently and foolishly had yet to back up. I also had some pretty weak hardware back then and I didn't want to waste what little cpu power I had on virus scans. Even if it only saves me from a one or twice a year infection, I'm going to keep running it. It doesn't slow anything down and it hides seamlessly into the background.

Virus scans are kinda like airbags. You almost never need them, they can hurt you but they save you far more often than they hurt you, it isn't always up to you when you need them to save you, and wow are you thankful for them when they do save you.
    
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biggrin.gif One more beta to be in for Microsoft.
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Thanks for this OP, I'm signed up.

Although I don't use my "main" rig for much at all nowadays, most of the time I'm on my netbook, which runs Linux (and therefore is, to all intents and purposes, immune to virusses)
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post #29 of 45
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I Love how people that profess to not using antivirus always give off a 'Holier than thou' vibe. Like they are the only 'clean' ones on the internet and the rest of us with our dirty websites and dirty virus infected computers are the only ones that need antivirus. Like it's some kind of sin.

Seriously, if you don't like AV products, don't use AV products, and haven't used a specific AV product enough to give an opinion... please don't give an opinion. All you are doing by giving such a baseless opinion, is trolling with the view to start some kind of flaming.

I have plenty of experience with AV programs, I install them for clients nearly every day, and I get feedback from hundreds of people on how many times they see it pop up with a warning vs how much slower their workstation became after installing it, or how much less battery life they have on their laptop, and so on.

Every memory-resident program you install on your PC takes up space and uses the CPU, and this effect is compounded when the program intercepts system calls to read files and do other things, adding in code branches that don't need to be there. It doesn't take a genius, or even a technically-minded person, to see the effects. If you think that the slowdown is worth the protection then fine, but that doesn't mean it's the case for everyone. There's no such thing as a 100% resource-free program, whether it's anti-virus or not.

I also don't get how I'm coming of with a 'holier than thou' attitude, when you're the one sitting here professing about how the only opinions that matter are the opinions of the people who use them. Anyone who chose to stop using them automatically has "no experience", and therefore has a worthless opinion.
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Yeah, if you steer away from torrents, porn and shady websites, you should be fine with not getting viruses.

MSE protects me lol
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