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Hello everyone,

Im thinking about overclocking my ASUS G74Sx laptop and was just wondering if anyone could give me some tipsand pointers before I happen to destroy my laptop biggrin.gif

Specs are as follows:
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Processor - Intel® Core™ i7 2630QM Processor 2.0 GHz

Operating System - Genuine Windows® 7 Professional 64bit

Chipset - Intel® HM65 Express Chipset

Memory - DDR3 1333 MHz SDRAM (2x4GB) 8GB

Display - 17.3" Full HD (1920x1080) LED Backlight

Graphic -NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 560M with 3GB GDDR5 VRAM
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The reason why I want to do this is to see what I could potentially get out of this laptop once overclocked.

The programs that im looking into to use are:
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CPU - BIOS
GPU - MSI Afterburner
Temps - HW Monitor
CPU-Z
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If there is any more programs that i could use or anygood tips for some of the programs above let me know.

I believe this laptop could be over clocked because of it having a good cooling system but I wanna get an outsider view to see it could be possible and some of the steps invovled.

Thanks thumb.gif
post #2 of 10
IMO if you do overclock you're probably only to gain marginal differences in performance but an exponential increase in heat. While the G74Sx has better cooling I read in a review that it had a fixed fan rpm? (see AnandTech review), and under load the GPU reached something like 75*, while that being an exception temperature considering it is a laptop, if you start to increase the voltage you're probably going to see temps that might be uncomfortable to you. As for CPU overclocking I would advise against it due to the same reason that heat/performance ratio is going to be high.
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Oh ok thanks so basically its not worth it biggrin.gif
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IMO if you do overclock you're probably only to gain marginal differences in performance but an exponential increase in heat. While the G74Sx has better cooling I read in a review that it had a fixed fan rpm? (see AnandTech review), and under load the GPU reached something like 75*, while that being an exception temperature considering it is a laptop, if you start to increase the voltage you're probably going to see temps that might be uncomfortable to you. As for CPU overclocking I would advise against it due to the same reason that heat/performance ratio is going to be high.
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Oh ok thanks so basically its not worth it biggrin.gif

That's highly untrue. If you haven't seen what I managed for my 460M then you need to do so. biggrin.gif

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As it stands right now, my 460M is faster than your 560M. I say use Nvidia Inspector 1.9.5.5 to push that thing a bit farther. tongue.gif

Your memory clock is highly important here. As you can see, my pixel and texture fill rates are actually lower than your 560M, however my memory bandwidth is significantly higher than your GPU. The bandwidth makes all the more improvement on mobile GPUs. wink.gif

Check out my GPU score and then check out the stock GPU score on Notebookcheck.net. wink.gif

Nvidia Inspector allows for higher memory overclocking and seems to identify GPUs a bit better than Afterburner.
Edited by Imglidinhere - 11/26/11 at 12:51am
     
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Thanks man biggrin.gif ill have a look into it and let you know how I go.
Cheers.
post #6 of 10
I saw a good increase after oc'ing with EVGA precision. I have a laptop cooling fan and my home office is a dark cool room.

oh and its a G74 from bestbuy.
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That's highly untrue. If you haven't seen what I managed for my 460M then you need to do so. biggrin.gif
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As it stands right now, my 460M is faster than your 560M. I say use Nvidia Inspector 1.9.5.5 to push that thing a bit farther. tongue.gif
Your memory clock is highly important here. As you can see, my pixel and texture fill rates are actually lower than your 560M, however my memory bandwidth is significantly higher than your GPU. The bandwidth makes all the more improvement on mobile GPUs. wink.gif
Check out my GPU score and then check out the stock GPU score on Notebookcheck.net. wink.gif
Nvidia Inspector allows for higher memory overclocking and seems to identify GPUs a bit better than Afterburner.

What's your avg fps difference from your OC on the 460M and Stock? I read somewhere that whilst memory bandwidth is important it's constrained by the clock speed or something like that?

Edit: Or was it something like memory bandwidth usage is a function of texture fillrate + pixelfilrate?
Edited by Kai` - 11/26/11 at 1:16pm
post #8 of 10
SB CPUs have locked mulipliers, so with the CPU you are stuck unless you shell out for an Extreme Edition CPU (2920XM etc)

the GPU is easilly overclockable though like the others have said
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What's your avg fps difference from your OC on the 460M and Stock? I read somewhere that whilst memory bandwidth is important it's constrained by the clock speed or something like that?
Edit: Or was it something like memory bandwidth usage is a function of texture fillrate + pixelfilrate?

I would normally run Dead Island maxed out, at stock, with around 60-65 frames a second and after overclocking it pushes 75-80 frames a second.

The bandwidth affects performance a bit more when going from roughly 50GB/s to around 100GB/s, especially when the GPU has more than 1GB of Vram.

If you care for more proof, look at the 5770 and the 4890. Same specs for both cards. Same pixel and texture fill rates... but the 4890 has double the bus width and higher memory bandwidth. That's why it's faster. tongue.gif
     
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I would normally run Dead Island maxed out, at stock, with around 60-65 frames a second and after overclocking it pushes 75-80 frames a second.
The bandwidth affects performance a bit more when going from roughly 50GB/s to around 100GB/s, especially when the GPU has more than 1GB of Vram.
If you care for more proof, look at the 5770 and the 4890. Same specs for both cards. Same pixel and texture fill rates... but the 4890 has double the bus width and higher memory bandwidth. That's why it's faster. tongue.gif

hmm some interesting science behind this *goes off to read* cheers.
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