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EVGA 580 GTX 3GB Classified vs EVGA 580 GTX 3GB Reference for Waterblocks

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Ok, so I am trying to figure out what if waterblocks made for the reference design of the 580 GTX 3GB card will work on EVGA's 580 GTX 3GB Classified card.

Supposedly, EVGA's Classified version of the cards are NOT reference designs, but I believe this is due to extending the length of the card to accomodate the extra power connector. It appears to use the same hydro waterblock that the reference GTX 580's use.

I am wanting to slap a Danger Den Black Chrome Top and Nickle water block on each of the 4 cards I plan to put in SLI in my new build. However, I dont know if it will fit and have found nothing as far as supplemental materal to state if reference design waterblocks will work or not.

If all EVGA did was extend the length of the board to accomodate the extra power conenctor, then it is unlikely they completely redesigned the layout of the card (but I don't really want to assume that when spending almost $2200 on cards/blocks).

EVGA 580 GTX 3GB Reference Hydro
Height: 5.5in
Length: 10.5in

EVGA 580 GTX 3GB Classified Hydro
Height: 6.15in (0.65 inch more)
Length: 11in (half inch longer)


I've talked to EVGA Tech Support (which answered none of my questions), and they were, for a lack of better words, unhelpful.

The Tech guys main response to all questions regarding fitting an aftermarket waterblock on was that the card is not a reference design and that their hydro block solution is more than adequate for cooling. I then linked him to This Review which basically states the opposite because its not a full coverage waterblock.

I also tried to ask about what they had changed which would make the card not reference. He basically told me they extended the length of the card to allow for more power input and the additional connector. I then asked if the layout of the VRM and GPU had been altered and if they were located a different distance from the edge of the card when compared to the reference, and the tech would not answer the questions, but rather went on about how EVGA is confident in their hydro block solution.

Needless to say, I finally just left it alone and ended the conversation because the tech didn't have/wouldnt give me the answers to the questions i was asking about component layout and spacing.




All I am wanting to know is if I can use the danger den block i listed above on the Classified board. If not, I will go with reference GTX 580 3GB's because I'm not going to deal with an inadequate waterblock on what EVGA claims to be their "Best Overclocking Card to Date". How are you supposed to seriously overclock if you remove the airflow present on the regular model and dont cool the VRM with the waterblock? (to which the EVGA tech answered they are confident in the performance of the hydro waterblock solution).



Anyone deal with these "classified" cards and aftermarket waterblocks?

Thanks in advance.





edit:

I found the following 2 pics:

EVGA-GeForce-GTX-580-Classified-to-Sport-3GB-of-Memory-3.jpg
580 GTX 3GB Classified

imageview.php?image=29019
580 GTX 3GB Reference

looks like it wont fit due to the extension on the card to allow for more hardware. The layout is somewhat different too. :-(
Edited by Hyperlite - 11/23/11 at 7:21am
     
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7-3960X ASUS Rampage IV Extreme 4 x eVGA 580 GTX 3GB FTW Hydro 2 in Quad SLI 32 GB (4 x 8GB) Corsair Dominator GT Quad Channel 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
4 x 256GB Crucial M4 in RAID 0 on SATA III 2 x Western Digital 2TB RE4 in RAID 0 on SATA II 2 x LITE-ON 12X BD-R 2X BD-RE 3D Playback XSPC RayStorm High Performance Acetal Waterblock 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
8 x Scythe Gentle Typhoon 120mm 5400 RPM Fans 13 x Aerocool Shark Red Edition Fans 4 x Danger Den Black Chrome Top and Nickle Base... Koolance ASUS Rampage IV Waterblock 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
2 x EK Dominator Red/Nickel Waterblocks 2 x Black Ice GTX Xtreme 480 Radiator 2 x FrozenQ Liquid Fusion Dual Bay Reservoir - ... Bitspower Fittings, Extensions, Etc. 
CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
4 x Danger Den D5 Pump 4 x Bitspower D5 Pump V2 Mods (Body and Top) Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit 3 x 27" Samsung 1ms LCD's 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech G19 2 x Corsair 1200AX CaseLabs Magnum TH-10 Logitech G700 Wireless 
Mouse PadAudioOtherOther
Victoria Secret Mouse Pad Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 Speakers 2 x APC Smart-UPS SMT2200 2200VA LCD 1980 Watt ... Logitech G13 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i7-4960x ASUS Rampage IV Extreme 4 x EVGA GTX TITAN 64GB Corsair Dominator Platinum 2400 MHz 
Optical DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
ASUS 16x Blu-Ray Writer CPU Block: EK Supremacy (Clear/Nickel) Pumps: 3 x Aquacomputer Aquastream XT USB 12V P... Reservoir: 2 x Bitspower Z-Tank 250mm All Acrylic 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Motherboard Block: EK ASUS R4E Full Board Block... GPU Block: 4 x EK Titan SE's (Clear/Nickel) GPU Backplate: 4 x EK Geforce GTX Titan Backplate Memory Block: 4 x EK Monarch Series X2's (Clear... 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Memory Sideplates: 4 x EK RAM Monarch DIMM Module Radiator: 3 x XSPS AX480's in White Rad Fans: 16 x Gentle Typhoon 1850 RPM Coolant: Mayhem Aurora - Tharsis Red 
OSPowerCaseOther
Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit PSU: 2 x Corsair AX1200i CaseLabs STH10 MDPC-X Sleeving 
OtherOtherOtherOther
Radiator Gasket: ? x XSPC 480mm Radiator Gaskets Tubing Main: PrimoChill Rigid Acrylic Tube (Clear) Tubing SLI: EK 12mm Acrylic (Clear) Compression Fittings: ? x PrimoChill Rigid Ghos... 
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You should have just bought the regular EVGA reference card...the Hydro is tempting but the block is not worth the extra $200...If I were you I would just try to sell that card ans start over cut your losses before plunging any more money trying to fix issues with that cards...just my 2 cents
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