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The different temps are for the GPU core, VRM, and Ram ( I am not sure which is which, but the first one I believe is the GPU core). I use EK blocks but the GPU temps look about right. The VRM and RAM seems to be on the high side, so I am not sure when you reseated the blocks you were focusing on the Core or making sure you had good contact around the VRM and Ram. Also, I would not switch to parallel with that number of blocks/TriFire. I have read a few posts that a parallel set up made the temps worse because the flow rate was not high enough. One of the cards temps should be higher then the other two because ATI CCC throttles the other two when not needed. Good luck.
Edited by CesarNYC - 11/25/11 at 6:18am
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The different temps are for the GPU core, VRM, and Ram ( I am not sure which is which, but the first one I believe is the GPU core). I use EK blocks but the GPU temps look about right. The VRM and RAM seems to be on the high side, so I am not sure when you reseated the blocks you were focusing on the Core or making sure you had good contact around the VRM and Ram. Also, I would not switch to parallel with that number of blocks/TriFire. I have read a few posts that a parallel set up made the temps worse because the flow rate was not high enough. One of the cards temps should be higher then the other two because ATI CCC throttles the other two when not needed. Good luck.

This could be helpfull for OP, also for me cause im having somewhat of the same issue of my 6970 on my stock cooler. my gpu reaches about 70C max, but the Temp#3 is out of the charts up to the 85's.
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The different temps are for the GPU core, VRM, and Ram ( I am not sure which is which, but the first one I believe is the GPU core). I use EK blocks but the GPU temps look about right. The VRM and RAM seems to be on the high side, so I am not sure when you reseated the blocks you were focusing on the Core or making sure you had good contact around the VRM and Ram. Also, I would not switch to parallel with that number of blocks/TriFire. I have read a few posts that a parallel set up made the temps worse because the flow rate was not high enough. One of the cards temps should be higher then the other two because ATI CCC throttles the other two when not needed. Good luck.

do you know this for a fact?

by VRM do you mean VReg Temp? cuz if it's one in the same... gpuz reports VReg separately

you are right about the other two cards being throttled which might be the reason for the huge gap between card temps...

try running CFX and a full screen bench... this will fully utilize all three cards... and see if the difference between temps are still abnormal

maybe you missed a few spots while applying the thermal pads when mounting the blocks? i know i did the first time i mounted the blocks on my cards
Edited by 808MP5 - 11/25/11 at 6:03am
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do you know this for a fact?
by VRM do you mean VReg Temp? cuz if it's one in the same... gpuz reports VReg separately
you are right about the other two cards being throttled which might be the reason for the huge gap between card temps...
try running CFX and a full screen bench... this will fully utilize all three cards... and see if the difference between temps are still abnormal
maybe you missed a few spots while applying the thermal pads when mounting the blocks? i know i did the first time i mounted the blocks on my cards


As it turns out, I am guilty of spreading an internet myth. I did a little more digging and wound up at the Tech Power up forums (the developers). I found this.

So the admin states that the GPU#1,#2,#3 temps reported are all located on the die. At least at the time of the post there was no reliable information on exactly where though. But its clear when he says "again, these sensors are definitely not VRM, memory, PCB or MOSFET" that what I read and posted earlier was wrong redface.gif

So assuming you are getting even pressure across the die, a 20 degree difference between different sections of the die seems odd.
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Please explain exactly what you did to bleed the loop. If you didn't lean your case to the right, left, forward and back in a circular motion at a 45 degree angle you have some bleeding to finish. I also have a radiator on top of my case and when I leaned it in all directions at a 45 degree angle it sounded like someone slurping a huge gulp of water, I did this until there were no more gulps.

As you said i have shifted the case from side to side a number of times, tilted it forward and backwards and rocked it a bit to get loose dislogded bubles. So it should be close to 100%.
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I'm no expert but I'm leaning towards not enough flow
I'll post my temp results when I get back home. If card one temps shows the same trend as yours then it's probably normal.
The thing is. Can someone tell us what the three temp readings ab is reporting? I would assume temp one is the core. But what about two and three.
Edit: I retract my flow guess seeing that core temps across three cards remain close. It's probably because card one us the main card and works harder. Ex. Memory usage.
Edit 1:
Well I ran Heaven and all three of my temps on all three of my cards remain within a few degrees from each other... i don't get the huge gap that you do...also my gpu 2 and 3 temps don't even come close to 50c and neither does my gpu 1 temp... but then again i'm running 6950s... so I can only speculate that something is wrong with your setup... but who knows for sure exactly what gpuz is reporting when it comes to gpu temp 2 and 3...
i am using the koolance vid697x acetal blocks

I was also thinking that since the temps on the cores are close the flow should be OK, cooling is cooling, if its cooling the core, shader or the mem controller the principle of cooling is still the same?
The cpu hits around 66c @ 1.38v, all the three cores on the gpu's hit around 50c, ambient temp is ~23c.

Just so everybody knows the Temps #1 / #2 / #3 is core / shader / mem controller, they are all located on the die.
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This could be helpfull for OP, also for me cause im having somewhat of the same issue of my 6970 on my stock cooler. my gpu reaches about 70C max, but the Temp#3 is out of the charts up to the 85's.

This is sort of good news to me, i think that on air the Temp #3 (mem Controller) normaly see 85c + so the fact that mine is about 15c under that means that they should be out of danger even though i would like to get them down to the 50's
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As it turns out, I am guilty of spreading an internet myth. I did a little more digging and wound up at the Tech Power up forums (the developers). I found this.
So the admin states that the GPU#1,#2,#3 temps reported are all located on the die. At least at the time of the post there was no reliable information on exactly where though. But its clear when he says "again, these sensors are definitely not VRM, memory, PCB or MOSFET" that what I read and posted earlier was wrong redface.gif
So assuming you are getting even pressure across the die, a 20 degree difference between different sections of the die seems odd.

Temps #1 / #2 / #3 is core / shader / mem controller, they are all located on the die.


I used the Old Martins Flow Rate calulator and i got around 0.80GPM, i know its old and that it does not have my blocks but i over did it saying that i have 12 feet of tubing (im probably close to 6, and that i have 18x 90 Degree bends, while i have 9. This should give me a pinpoint that im in the 0.70 - 0.80 GPM area. Not the best but should be OK.
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If there is any air trapped in that system I would say its at the top of that 120 rad you would almost have to turn the pc on its head to get all the air out of it
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If there is any air trapped in that system I would say its at the top of that 120 rad you would almost have to turn the pc on its head to get all the air out of it

Or just loosen the bleeding skrew on the top until a bit of water starts coming out. Did that now.
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LOL didnt know they had one but good deal. Did you have any air up there and did it help your temps?
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Ok, was just playing around in the case now, i noticed that if i press the tubes before the 240 rad in the bottom im seeing large amount of bubbles coming out of the 240 rad.

I've been pressing the tubes for 5 min now but still getting bubles. Am i only sucking air in from somewhere or is the air coming from the rad??

I've seen no leaking what so ever during the 3 weeks its been running and i see no leaking while pressing the tube.
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I dont think you have a leak I think you just have air in your system
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