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Hi there, I am about to purchase my first gaming keyboard and really liked the looks of this.

Mionix Zibal 60
http://www.mionix.net/page.php?al=zibal60

Is this a good keyboard? I really like it and it has mechanical black switches which I hear is good for gaming. It also has audio ports for my headset and a USB port for my mice.

Thanks.

-Shaq
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I have two of these boards. They're great and at an average price point for a quality backlit mech keyboard.

But the only downfall is that the black paint on the keycaps wear off extremely quickly.

This is my S key only after about 2 weeks of use. As you can see it is fading:
JxH1.jpg

The other minor issue is that some of the LEDs seem to be dimming fairly quickly. For me it is the number keys. But all of these are just cosmetic issues. The keyboard itself is of very high build quality and the audio and usb ports are VERY handy to have.
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Is there a better mechanical that has backlighting? I also don't care about macro keys.

Thanks.

-Shaq
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I have two of these boards. They're great and at an average price point for a quality backlit mech keyboard.
But the only downfall is that the black paint on the keycaps wear off extremely quickly.
This is my S key only after about 2 weeks of use. As you can see it is fading:
JxH1.jpg
The other minor issue is that some of the LEDs seem to be dimming fairly quickly. For me it is the number keys. But all of these are just cosmetic issues. The keyboard itself is of very high build quality and the audio and usb ports are VERY handy to have.

Thats good info, sucks the keys wear out fast, I wonder if mionix sells a WASP replacement set cheap when it gets horrible, that or go aftermarket. I REALLY like the quality of the harness and the audio ports, i imagine green is easy to see in low light rather than too bright in a difficult way to read, saw this thing at frys and really want it. Still looking though...
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Is there a better mechanical that has backlighting? I also don't care about macro keys.
Thanks.
-Shaq

Man I have been looking too, seems like a lot of mechanical boards are not backlit, i would love to be able to just backlight the keys Im using durring gaming
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Yeah, I hope Mionix will sell or offer keycap replacements in the future. They should redo them so that the paint doesn't wear off so easily. Otherwise it's a great keyboard all around. I don't care too much about the aesthetics or backlight. It's not like I need to look at my keyboard while typing lol. But it's just nice to have a good looking piece on your desk smile.gif
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Is there a better mechanical that has backlighting? I also don't care about macro keys.

Thanks.

-Shaq

I've not seen any issues with BWU keycap wear, lots of people speculated that they would wear out fast, but the board has been out for a while now and I haven't seen a single post complaining about it. So you may want to look at the BWU or BWU:S. Other backlit boards are the Ducky Shine, Qpad MK-85, Deck, Tt Esports Meka G-Unit, and Xarmor U9BL. I'm sure there are others, but that's all I can think of off the top of my head.
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Is there a mechanical keyboard that has green backlighting? I can't see a Ducky Shine with green backlighting.

-Shaq
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Is there a mechanical keyboard that has green backlighting? I can't see a Ducky Shine with green backlighting.

-Shaq

Deck Legend Toxic has green backlighting.
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Is there a mechanical keyboard that has green backlighting? I can't see a Ducky Shine with green backlighting.
-Shaq

As the above poster pointed out 'Deck Legend'. Back lit keyboards start with Deck, and end with Deck with the best quality. Unfortunately, people don't like the looks of their font.... as it is often compared to Lord of the Rings font, and strays away from the norm. Their boards are also unnecessarily big, and don't match up with the slim line Filco's out there in looks. But, overall there is no back lit keyboard built better than a Deck right now. If you can tolerate the things I just said, and are willing to pay about about 30 dollars more than the Mionix you will get - a lot more. Including keys which are dye sublimation (check some overclock mech guides to get an explanation on that process) which is way superior than any other process done for back lit keys (unlikely to wear out for a very very long time - if ever), the keys are also PBT plastic as opposed to ABS for the Mionix (and all other back lit boards to my knowledge also use ABS plastic). The board itself is also made of PBT plastic (I believe), and is of super high quality built like a tank, makes the Mionix board look cheap. The difference in LED quality is also huge, and you are talking about .... I believe 1 dollar per bulb with the LED's put into Deck's (some ridiculous price). It's just that Deck makes these boards from TG3 Electronics, and they put them together in the U.S.A, and on top of that make very little profit. Reports are said that they make like 5% profit per board.

I actually tried a Mionix, and sent it back the next day. The board itself is made out of ABS plastic I believe, and is the same board that WASD (California custom keyboard company doing well now) uses. I thought the board seemed cheap. But, a lot of people like the design, and quality of the board because they buy WASD boards. I thought it was cheap in appearance, and the difference between ABS plastic with keycaps, and in the casing is huge to me. Filco uses a PBT plastic casing (I believe, which is one of the best IMO), but their caps are ABS. If you are looking for a back lit board with the most quality parts in it.... Deck is by far 1#. Back lit to me is an over-rated feature. In any back lit board the lights will basically go out over time. Deck even though they use great bulbs, they also will suffer from bulbs going out. The difference also with Deck is their customer service in the U.S. They offer a 30 day no questions asked take back policy. They also can fix your board, and it has a warranty for 1 year I believe. But, after that if you have a ton of lights out and want to take it in years later... you can do so and get them all fixed. So it's a awesome company.

I wouldn't go anywhere else for a back lit board. Although, for me I prefer a lighter switch. Unfortunately, years ago people were pushing for Deck to carry brown switch boards, and they opted out for clears. That was a big mistake on their part. They probably don't care though since they sell so many boards anyways. But, if their boards came in brown, blue, and red switches they would be much more of an option for people out there who like light switches. The boards though are of awesome quality, and you definitely get what you pay for with a Deck. You pay more, but you get a lot more in comparison to a Ducky (even though it's not out, it won't match the Deck in quality), Mionix, Xarmor, are all second to Deck. I opted out of a Deck based mainly on their key switch selection. Otherwise, you can't go wrong with a Deck keyboard. Good luck!

Remember that PBT caps are often seen as superior (and actually are in durability, but most consider the plastic better for overall feel as well), and no other manufacturer out there carries PBT caps for their back lit boards. That includes Ducky, Mionix, Xarmor etc.. I think that is really something to think about when buying any keyboard. What type of plastic is the keycaps, and the board? Is it PBT? That to me is the deal breaker with any board on the market today.
Edited by Trueepower - 11/23/11 at 8:58pm
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