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post #11 of 21
Passive crossovers are costly because it's a physical circuit. They come in a lot of different designs.

-negative is power loss through heat, and limited crossover slopes (24db/octave is the typical max).
-no "ideal" passive crossover since different orders fix some things but are weaker in other areas
-positive is they add very little if any noise.

Active crossovers, like any active DSP, introduces noise into the system. Any noise in the circuit will usually be amplified like hiss, hum, etc (many DSPs even have a "hum" rating). One way to fix this is to add resistors in the amp, but that also decreases the power output and requires some DIY knowledge. Also active DSP will add it's own sound artifacts. The same speaker passive vs active, the active version is going to have a much higher noise floor.

-negative is higher noise floor, more sound artifacts
-positive is steeper crossover slopes to push down cone resonances, can be 300/db per octave, even 1000db/octave ! (if you have $5000 to spend on an active DEQX crossover...)
Edited by astrallite - 11/29/11 at 10:03pm
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Thansk buddy, i see your greatly informed! and about the warranty part, or fixed revisions? : / do you know some info!
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I just ordered the M-Audio DSM1 for $368/pair; they usually go for $1300 at retail. I'll let you know how I like them.
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I wouldn't say they "aren't" for music playback, just not completely necessary. smile.gif
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Hey guys, i bought the A3x amazing sound! insane.....im totally speachless !! thumb.gif

They where alot better then all of the models expect the 2 Yamaha's which where decent but still lost to A3x.

1. Yamaha HS80 (close to Adam)
2. Yamaha HS50(not good as HS80 but also kinda close to A3x)
3. Wharfedale Diamond 10.1.
4. KRK Rokit G2 5
5. Tanoy reveal
6. M-audio CX5a
7. Berhinger B2031
8. M-audio BX5a
9. Tanoy reveal
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post #16 of 21
Congrats on your purchase! Is that list in order of preference with the Adams at the top? I have yet to hear the Adams but I've heard the KRK and M-Audio.

I just hope you get enough bass out of those 3" speakers lol.

Do you have any questions about how you hook em up? Balanced connections is best: TRS (Tip-Ring-Sleeve) 1/4" or XLR
post #17 of 21
The A3x uses 4.5" woofers, not 3"
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post #18 of 21
Yeah, the M-Audios are pretty lower end, even compared to 'entry-level' HT bookshelf speakers. That said, the M-Audios are still leagues above 'computer speakers'.

Great choice tbh.
post #19 of 21
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Thanks guys!

@ Doomtomb , Yes, the list is in order, the A3x are on top of the list.

And yes, like Astralite said, the A3x have 4.5' woofer, not 3. Krk and M-audio are quite beyond the Ax series in terms of generally audio quallity, if you got the money, i cant recommend this enough, just to be clear, this are quite accurate and flat, so you need to get used to this kind of sound, dont expect very good souding speakers, compared to your headphones/Hi-Fi speakers, this are made for monitorting/mix match, but after few hours/days you get used to really quallity sound and you udnerstand that its very good quallity speaker, no matter if they dont make music sound alot better then it is. I would also suggest to get only high quallity recordings (Mobile Fidelity Sound/DCC/Analoug productions/Japan HSM) to test the speakers with, not some compressed mastering based, losy mp3's, or poor recorded CD's.

Also If your on tight bugdet, you wont find better pair of Yamaha HS50, (IMHO) for the money they are stunning.
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post #20 of 21
The M-Audio DSM3s are $550 now at audiomidi.com. I'd get those.
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