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My dad talked to my mom about the klipsch speakers, and she didn't agree with spending $450 for a set of speakers. Thats why I went with the polk speakers. After talking to them about the center speaker, she also dont't like the idea of spending $150 for a center speaker. Are center speakers all that necessary? I just linked those center speakers because they were cheap.
As for the receiver, I don't think well ever have a 7.1 system, let alone the 7.2 system. I don't want to go over 350 for the receiver, so is there another you would recomend?

Don't waste money on 7 channels if you're not going to use them.

Don't skimp on the amplification; it is the most important component.

If you can't get the big KF-28s, then you may as well drop down to bookshelf speakers, so you can integrate proper subs instead. Don't make the mistake of going in-between. Either get BIG floor standing units with large woofers, or get bookshelves and pair them with subs.

You say that like those KF28's didn't need a sub to go with them too, because they did. Floor standers will NEVER get to subwoofer bass frequencies.

And what's wrong with his amplification? I know its not a real 100w RMS like its rated for, but I'll bet it'll do 75w easily enough. That's more than enough for efficient speakers.

And I see nothing wrong with buying a receiver with the future in mind. What if they eventually wanted 7.1?
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If we do watch movies on this setup, will the receiver automatically send the center channel sound to the front speakers?
Also, I don't really think I have room for the sub. He is fine with the one you posted, but space is an issue. I have this cabinet thing where I can put it, and it has a fabric-like cover, instead of wood. Is that a bad spot for a subwoofer? Should I post a picture of the area I have to work with?

Without a center and surround speakers, you just set the receiver to stereo mode and it will integrate everything into the front 2 channels. It works well enough, just doesn't produce a theatrical experience. In my experience, the problem in a home setting with stereo mode, is that there is no way to adjust the "dialogue" (mostly centre channel) volume separate the rest the speakers.

Sub placement is not very important. Anywhere in the room is generally fine.
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Without a center and surround speakers, you just set the receiver to stereo mode and it will integrate everything into the front 2 channels. It works fine, just doesn't produce a theatrical experience.
Sub placement is not very important. Anywhere in the room is generally fine.

I know for a fact that this is not true. There are some places in my room where my sub is barley audible, and move a foot to the right, and its booming in your ears. I was just wondering if it would be bad for the sub to be almost enclosed in something. Could it overheat?
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If we do watch movies on this setup, will the receiver automatically send the center channel sound to the front speakers?
Also, I don't really think I have room for the sub. He is fine with the one you posted, but space is an issue. I have this cabinet thing where I can put it, and it has a fabric-like cover, instead of wood. Is that a bad spot for a subwoofer? Should I post a picture of the area I have to work with?

Without a center and surround speakers, you just set the receiver to stereo mode and it will integrate everything into the front 2 channels. It works fine, just doesn't produce a theatrical experience.

Sub placement is not very important. Anywhere in the room is generally fine.

Sub placement is actually very important. Usually a corner (an outside corner of the house) is best. Along a wall is also fine, but you might get dead spots.

It's not as important as your other speaker placements, no. But it is still important.
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now i cant decide. 7.2 receiver or another one. Personally, I dont see the reason of having the extra sub capability or extra 2 surround speakers. I am almost 99% sure that i will never use those.
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Let me rephrase that... As we work our way into this thread and learn more about the application and the people using the system, sub placement matters very little as the system placement needs to be convenient. There are certainly places in a room that will make a sub sound more transparent, or more boomy, or play deeper,,, I just can't find a place in this application where this matters.

If you've read any of my responses in other audio related threads you may have picked up on the fact that I am a HUGE fan of stereo pair subs positioned just under the front mains (or just beside) for best (IMO) sound quality. The way this thread is running, I have no reason to believe that the users of this system are going to much care the differences that the sub position creates. With that said, they will probably be happy with that Onkyo just as well. I know that over the years, I have become less and less impressed with ours, and would love to be able to afford to upgrade it some day.

It's funny... On this forum. You spend some time in the computer building arena of it, and everyone is very adamant about getting a quality PSU no matter what the build. The reason is that you want quality clean power and reliability. Well, when it comes to audio amplification, the same concept applies, except this time you actually have to hear the results rather than just cross your fingers and hope the results are good. If anything, on a forum that is so highly tuned towards the understanding that quality is more important than wattage ratings, there should not be any trouble convincing people of the importance of buying the best possible amplifier as first priority.
     
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Jtvd78,

Has any of this been purchased or do you still have a total budget to work with for the initial system? I'd be very interested to know how much money can drop right now. I would like to make suggestions based on that number in mind.
     
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I paid for the 2 polk monitor60s. Thats $200 out of the budget. I have about $400 for a sub and receiver.
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I paid for the 2 polk monitor60s. Thats $200 out of the budget. I have about $400 for a sub and receiver.

Then you should skip the sub and buy the marantz I suggested for $400.
     
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I paid for the 2 polk monitor60s. Thats $200 out of the budget. I have about $400 for a sub and receiver.

Then you should skip the sub and buy the marantz I suggested for $400.

And then there would be no low end at all.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with a good Onkyo, Yamaha, or Denon receiver. My Yamaha receiver was only $200 (open box deal), and its absolutely excellent, and powers my speakers very VERY well. I measured 80w RMS out of it cleanly (to my ears), and its rated for 110w RMS. I could care less if its cleaner on paper, I go for what sounds good to my ears.

I'm sorry, but I just can't justify spending $400 on a receiver, when he's using $200 tower speakers and no sub.
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Crucial MX100 256GB WD Green 2TB DVDRW Corsair H50 Push / Pull 
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NZXT 120mm fans strapped to stock 7970 cooler Windows 10 Pro Dell 3007WFP Dell 2007FP 
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Dell 2007FP Cheap Toshiba (R.I.P. Ducky) PC Power & Cooling Silencer MKIII 950w Cheap Garbage (free) 
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Logitech G602 Yardsale Special 
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Intel Core i5 3330 Asus H61 MSI GTX 750Ti Low Profile 2x4GB Hynix DDR3-1333 
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60GB Kingston SSD 1TB Seagate Samsung DVDRW CoolerMaster Gemin II 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 8.1 + Steam Big Picture / Plex HT 50" Insignia LED 1080p Logitech Rosewill Green 530w 
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Silverstone HTPC Logitech Pioneer 2.0 tower speakers + 135w RMS Rosewill MCE Remote 
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