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This is what I think of DRM
There are three kinds:
1-No DRM(cdprojects/gog)
2-Tolerable DRM(Steam & Origin)
3-Poor DRM(ubisoft & GFWL)
That being said, I can see why it may be hard for a large company to go without DRM but its shown a good game sales without DRM(The Witcher), but a company can put work into their DRM and make it manageable so it does as little as possible to hinder its users while still protecting their games; for instance Steam with an easy to use interface and a massive library and Origin with great customer service.
But its easy for a company to a wrong with DRM, I remember how many issues pop-ed up when From Dust was released and their DRM was causing much trouble, and consider how big they are the PC DRM could have been dealt with much better(and for GFWL I have had some complications but are dealt with).

Although I respect cdprojekt more than any publisher/developer out there now, and that I think TW 1 & 2 are truely awesome games, in the long run I think PC needs DRM (preferably #2 Tolerable DRM).

See, most of those that do go into the dodgy dealings of piracy do so out of choice. Whenever there is a very popular game coming out on PC (tends to be mostly with Indie dev's), those pirates refrain and advise others to purchase the game and support quality games such as these. Now imagine if every game on PC was DRM free. With so much choice - I highly doubt they will all be advising each other not to pirate all these other games.

With widespread DRM-free PC games being (every PC game having no DRM) I would expect the piracy numbers to increase significantly over time. Most tend to not go into it because they know its immoral, others can't be asked to spend the effort or have not interest in finding out how to pirate.... but imagine if every game was DRM free it would only be a matter of time before you'd see one-click download links for old and latest PC games. And because there is no DRM, there is no complications - a simple one-click installation.

Sure DRM shouldn't be as harsh as Ubisoft. But DRM like Steam is fine IMO.
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With widespread DRM-free PC games being (every PC game having no DRM) I would expect the piracy numbers to increase significantly over time. Most tend to not go into it because they know its immoral, others can't be asked to spend the effort or have not interest in finding out how to pirate.... but imagine if every game was DRM free it would only be a matter of time before you'd see one-click download links for old and latest PC games. And because there is no DRM, there is no complications - a simple one-click installation.
Sure DRM shouldn't be as harsh as Ubisoft. But DRM like Steam is fine IMO.

With no DRM, I would find it safe to assume piracy rates increasing even more. Steam and Origin are done well, I can barely stand GFWL but I do attempt to use it for the few games that demand it ((I think the only problem I had was: 1) Open game in Steam. 2) Run game through GFWL. 3) Update GFWL. 4) Close out of game, continue updating GFWL.5) Reopen game through Steam. 6) Run game through GFWL. 7) Play game~))
I liked what Bohemia Interactive did and still does with their games, they release a terrible game on launch with selective-DRM and then continue to update it until they remove the DRM a few months later.
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