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    My friend with 16gb of RAM
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post #21 of 45
OK incorrect salesman. but. I gave my nephew his first computer hoping to get him interested in learning a trade (it has not worked). The computer was equipped with an Anthlon 250 (mid 2.0 range clock speed) 4gb ram,and a 9600GSO. The weekend he came by to pick it up we played Crysis for about 14hrs straight. The computer performed very well, no complaints. The most glaring error in your friends rig was the purchase and installation of 16gb RAM. Price,I am suprised they did not take him for more.
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post #22 of 45
Pal of mine did something similar. His computer died randomly and called me over to take a look at it. I concluded that 1 of 3 things was broken; the motherboard's iGPU, the CPU had died/overheated because of all the dog hair in the cooler, or the RAM was fried. I told him and his mom I could have replaced the mobo, cpu and RAM for $150 (the power supply passed the paper clip test, and the HDD failing was unlikely because the PC powered on but didn't go into BIOS or display anything. Kinda like the walking dead of PCs). I told them about a reputable PC tech in the neighborhood. But his mom goes and buys a new PC for $700 @ bestbuy the next day. Not to mention the salesman suckered 'em into buying a new 1080p monitor for $300, just because the iGPU didn't have a VGA port on the back of the PC (the old monitor had a DVI port too, just not a cable for it). It was a matter of buying a $10 cable, or the $300 monitor!!! So now I'm gonna get a deal on their old monitor (1440x900 res).

It's a shame this problem is so wide spread mad.gif

Some else also pointed out
BESTBUY IS THIER TO MAKE SALES FOR THE MOST $$$$$$ POSSIBLE!!!!!!!! NOT TO HELP CUSTOMERS!!!!!! THE ONLY WAY THEY HELP CUSTOMERS, IS TO HELP YOU SPEND MOAR MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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post #23 of 45
16 GB of ram is only needed for video editing, photo editing, and CAD . Now go tell your friend to return that garbage PC or try to fire that salesman.
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post #24 of 45
You could sell a turd to the uninformed and they would think its awesome.
post #25 of 45
Quote:
Originally Posted by dtfgator View Post

Is 16gb of RAM really good for gaming with the low end CPU and GPU, or should he have invested more into the hardware and less in the RAM?

Having more than 4gbs of ram is like having more than 4 car tires. Games use less than 4gbs of ram - at least every game I play does. If your friend doesn't believe this, take out 12gbs and disable his pagefile. When it runs without crashing, that tells you that 12gbs of ram is sitting there on the sidelines gathering dust. Remember, the single most important piece of any gaming rig is the video card.
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post #26 of 45
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Originally Posted by zzTroyzz View Post

furthermore, no kid at bestbuy has a $24,000 computer... or actually, this guy sounds dumb enough that he might just have one lol.

Yea, with close to the same hardware.

Hater time:
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You could sell a turd to the uninformed and they would think its awesome.

Yea, look at how many iMacs sell.
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post #27 of 45
I think his friend is lazy and probably looks at a computer like a console... Hey a bought my pc a couple of years ago so this years model will be able to play this years games omfg it's common sense.... Not bf3 needs pretty expensive equipment just to keep it at a respectable level.

Software keeps on evolving.... It's gonna be fun once the new generation of programmers trained in effective multhi-threaded programming start working i'm sure their gonna put much of our extra cores to good use. Bf3 is already quad threaded i'm sure 4 years down the line multi-core cpus will finaly see games pushing all cores. And us needing to upgrade again it's one exhilirating and expensive hobby. Rewarding though unlike any other. smile.gif

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post #28 of 45
bro you win, buying a computer is so much more expensive then building one, the machine below looks badass for around 700$ can max out most games and runs super fast, i ran benchmarks between this and my moms 1200$ and mine was significantly better, and if i paid 1200 for my custom it would be even better
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post #29 of 45
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Originally Posted by dtfgator View Post

Hi all!
I'm fairly new here and I'm not sure if I'm posting this in the right place, Feel free to move it if I got it wrong.
Just last week, my friends computer died (an old HP), and he hastily went to Bestbuy and purchased a new one. Disregarding my warnings to do research and possibly to just build his own computer, or have me build one for him, he ended up going with an Asus desktop, the CM1730_03. (http://www.asus.com/Desktop/Entertainment/Essentio_CM1730/#specifications).
The Bestbuy salesman apparently convinced him that CPU and GPU power are irrelevant for gaming, and the RAM is what you really need (this is where I tried to convince him that the salesman was a retard). Apparently the salesman is an "Avid gamer with a $24k computer", so he "knows more about computers than I do", according to my friend.
So my friend ended up going with this setup:
Asus CM1730_03
-AMD Athlon X2 Dual core (2.8Ghz)
-ATI 560v Graphics card (similar to the 4350) -- (I knew it sucked the second they advertise FULL 1080P VIDEO on the site, lol)
-16gb of 1333 DDR3 RAM
-1tb SATA HDD
For a grand total of ~$1k.
(Facepalm).
So, to settle our dispute and conclude our bet, as well as to hopefully convince my friend otherwise and get him to cancel his order, who was right? Is 16gb of RAM really good for gaming with the low end CPU and GPU, or should he have invested more into the hardware and less in the RAM?
Thanks,
-Dtfgator

***? Are you kidding me?! tell your friend to sober up, cancel the order and then go give that salesman my address so he can come kiss my butt. "24K gaming rig" my ass. He probably spent that much to play Tetris biggrin.gif

Three possible solutions- 1. cancel the order.
2. cancel the order and tell your friend that he needs a brain transplant.
3. cancel the order, tell your friend that he needs a brain transplant and find a new friend.

With "24K", you'd probably have 5 GTX 590s, 60 gigs of RAM, an FX 25-core processor and use the spare change on the same setup again biggrin.gif
Edited by PunkX 1 - 11/24/11 at 11:39pm
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post #30 of 45
Have a 1 to 1, man to man conversation with him about computers...
Tell him, the reasons why he doesn't need 16 gbs of RAM.

I am pretty sure he understands why Best buy employees do what they do if he doesn't, please explain to him.
For one thing, sure the employee is out there to make a buck, but to inform the misinformed is not cool.
If I was the Best Buy guy, I would tell him straight out no need for high amounts of RAM..spend the money where it counts!!

If/when your friend cancels that pc, go with him to Best Buy and just look around and see what they offer.
Then drive his *** to a Fry's or a Microcenter and show him what he's really missing out on. Maybe ask him to ask the Associate working there to piece together a rig for less than 1k.
Hopefully he can see the difference in price/performance, if he can't then he IS a retard.
I don't think the employees at Fry's or Microcenter are that noob so see what they offer for less that 1k budget.


If he doesn't take into consideration your trying to help him, let him make the mistake...
While you play SC2 lagg free on 4~8 gbs of RAM and he calls you up asking why he's stuff is slow and laggy explain to him what he did wrong.

He'll be losing money just by omitting some RAM he has for that BB pc.

I do this all the time where I am from, and we don't even have the wonderful things like Fry's and Microcenter, we still pay out of the yingyang for parts cause it gets shipped from afar.

Anyways.

Settle the dispute put him in the right place and be happy, otherwise just shake your head if he asks you if you want to game on his BB bought pc;)
Edited by v1ral - 11/24/11 at 11:52pm
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