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So now I am up in the air again on what I want to do. With all of my new parts on the way, I can't decide if I want to order water parts or stick with the Venomous X that is sitting in my closet.

I am really liking the idea of going to water, I like the look, performance, and specs and the kits these days are better than back in the day.

My main goal obviously is to keep things cool for high overclocks, but also room for expanding as I progress my upgrade. With that being said, I absolutely can't stand loud computers, at all! I don't mind hearing it and knowing that it's on, but I don't want to hear it over anything else.

So I have been looking at the Rasa kits and the RX and RS 360 kits have really caught my attention. I have read that the RX kit is better for low-medium fan speeds, but I imagine the RS in a push/pull would be just fine with my S-Flex F fans (I have 9 or 10 in total) mounted to them without having to keep the fans at high all the time...or would the RX really be that much better?

The only reason I haven't pulled the trigger on either kit is that I have read/seen/heard mixed reviews on reservoir/pump combination. I have read a few reviews with dead pumps, then I have heard/seen other reviews where the pump seems loud. I would ideally like to be able to isolate the pump to keep things quiet but I am not really sure what would be best.

If I were to go custom, what do you think would be best for my needs?

For the time being, this would just be for the CPU, but would probably add cards on at a later time. Plus I like the idea of the extra surface area to keep things a bit cooler without having the fans all on high. Any cards I add on down the line wont be too high performance as I don't game.

I'd ideally like to keep this whole cooling project under $250, ideally cheaper the better as I am not looking for anything too high-end.

Thanks guys thumb.gif


XSPC Rasa 750 RS360 -- $133

XSPC Rasa 750 RX360 -- $190
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For CPU only setup, I HIGHLY recommend a Koolance CPU-370 water block, a single bay reservoir, a 240 rad, and a PMP-450 adjustable speed pump. Total price comes out to around $292 directly on the Koolance website. If you go with a stand-alone acrylic res you may be able to knock off about $80. You also might be able to find the Koolance parts for cheaper on FrozenCPU.com. I use only Koolance products and PC Ice. Over 6 months with no biotic buildup, corrosion, etc.

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For CPU only setup, I HIGHLY recommend a Koolance CPU-370 water block, a single bay reservoir, a 240 rad, and a PMP-450 adjustable speed pump. Total price comes out to around $292 directly on the Koolance website. If you go with a stand-alone acrylic res you may be able to knock off about $80. You also might be able to find the Koolance parts for cheaper on FrozenCPU.com. I use only Koolance products and PC Ice. Over 6 months with no biotic buildup, corrosion, etc.
Good luck.

Any particular reason you suggest those?

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Any particular reason you suggest those?
Thanks +rep thumb.gif

Personal experience and quality. Don't get me wrong, brands like EK and XSPC are great but as far as quality in craftsmanship is concerned, I'd say the only manufacturer that comes close to Koolance is EK. Of course, my opinions are just that...opinions. And everything is subjective. However, statistics show that the CPU-370 outperforms so many other CPU water blocks.

As far as components are concerned, I suggest those because you obviously need everything I listed with the rad size being open to interpretation. In regards to the various rad sizes and from my experience, I got the same temps using a 240 rad or a 360 rad back when I was just cooling my i7 2600k alone. Add more components in your loop and I strongly recommend adding two or more separate loops to cool each major component(s) that requires cooling. However, some people like cleaner loops so they'll do one loop to cool all of their components from CPU to RAM to GPUs and more. In that case, you should have a good sized rad or rads included in the loop for multiple outlets of heat dissipation.
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Personal experience and quality. Don't get me wrong, brands like EK and XSPC are great but as far as quality in craftsmanship is concerned, I'd say the only manufacturer that comes close to Koolance is EK. Of course, my opinions are just that...opinions. And everything is subjective. However, statistics show that the CPU-370 outperforms so many other CPU water blocks.
As far as components are concerned, I suggest those because you obviously need everything I listed with the rad size being open to interpretation. In regards to the various rad sizes and from my experience, I got the same temps using a 240 rad or a 360 rad back when I was just cooling my i7 2600k alone. Add more components in your loop and I strongly recommend adding two or more separate loops to cool each major component(s) that requires cooling. However, some people like cleaner loops so they'll do one loop to cool all of their components from CPU to RAM to GPUs and more. In that case, you should have a good sized rad or rads included in the loop for multiple outlets of heat dissipation.

Interesting, I have always heard mix reviews about Koolance.

The only thing that is holding me back from going that route is the cost. Not that it is high or unreasonable, but the overall value.

From what I have read, the difference between the Rasa, EK, Koolance, and DD blocks are only a difference of a few degrees at the high end and when you aren't really doing extreme overclocking you won't really be seing max CPU temps before you reach voltages limitations when using water anyways.

And actually, the H100 for $70 is tempting as well. lol.
 
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I have a H50, a Ante 620, and a Rasa 240 kit... The Antec is pretty good... but the Rasa is just that much better. The Rasa kit will get you going for a pretty darn good price and let you decide from there if its what you want to do. I got the rasa, and then put in two GPU blocks and another radiator... and I am VERY happy with the results.
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And you are right. The blocks difference is maybe a few degrees... but XSPC just released a new block, the Raystorm, that is less expensive than most blocks, and has the highest flow rates... pretty darn good if you want to upgrade from the stock block in the Rasa kit.
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And you are right. The blocks difference is maybe a few degrees... but XSPC just released a new block, the Raystorm, that is less expensive than most blocks, and has the highest flow rates... pretty darn good if you want to upgrade from the stock block in the Rasa kit.

I have the RayStorm, and it is a VERY impressive block. If it's not currently THE best block out there right now, it's definitely a close second.

OP, you can always get a Rasa starter kit and expand later on or replace/add parts - I started off with the RS360 kit and moved on to an RX360, an RX120, RayStorm block, different fittings/bards/tubing, etc....I mean at this point, the only thing I have left from the original kit is the res/pump combo, and i'm only using that because it's more convenient in terms of space/positioning in my 800D, as opposed to having a separate res/pump that isn't mounted above my hard drive bays.
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I have a H50, a Ante 620, and a Rasa 240 kit... The Antec is pretty good... but the Rasa is just that much better. The Rasa kit will get you going for a pretty darn good price and let you decide from there if its what you want to do. I got the rasa, and then put in two GPU blocks and another radiator... and I am VERY happy with the results.

I have a feeling I won't be cooling a GPU for a while. I never stress the GPU out so it wouldn't make a huge difference for me.

The thing that has me somewhat sold on the xspc kits is the overall value, you seem to get a lot for your money.
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And you are right. The blocks difference is maybe a few degrees... but XSPC just released a new block, the Raystorm, that is less expensive than most blocks, and has the highest flow rates... pretty darn good if you want to upgrade from the stock block in the Rasa kit.

How crappy is the kit block really though? That's nice to know though, didn't know about the upgraded block.
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I have the RayStorm, and it is a VERY impressive block. If it's not currently THE best block out there right now, it's definitely a close second.
OP, you can always get a Rasa starter kit and expand later on or replace/add parts - I started off with the RS360 kit and moved on to an RX360, an RX120, RayStorm block, different fittings/bards/tubing, etc....I mean at this point, the only thing I have left from the original kit is the res/pump combo, and i'm only using that because it's more convenient in terms of space/positioning in my 800D, as opposed to having a separate res/pump that isn't mounted above my hard drive bays.

If you wouldn't mind, could you talk about the RS/RX comparison...how big of a difference was it? What is your loop cooling?

I'm just scared about the stock pump being too loud for my liking.


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The stock block is just fine.

If you are looking to upgrade pumps though... i am selling a MCP655
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