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Will do if I have enough after buying the xmas presents this year. redface.gif Damn I want the x6 now that I know it would work.

PS: Did anyone have an idea about whether ACC is good or bad to use in helping OCing? I'd like to know if that would help getting my CPU to use the default 15x multiplier again so I could have 3.75 instead of 3.6GHz
     
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why are you not using the default multi anyways?
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why are you not using the default multi anyways?

Exactly.
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Exactly.

It's because with the default 15 the thing goes crazy and I haven't found a voltage that makes it happy. I'm working on it though but it wasn't having it the last time. I'll try again at it on Monday or Tuesday as a cold front is coming through and that means mother nature will be helping me out with the cooling. All I know is with a 15 the thing crashed a minute into p95 and 1 pass of IBT yet with 14.5 at the same settings it made 4 hours p95 (I know it's not enough) and 11 passes of IBT. Maybe I'll get lucky this time around. Anyway does anyone know if the BSOD codes from the main forum are useful for AMD? They seemed Intel only orientated.
     
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It's because with the default 15 the thing goes crazy and I haven't found a voltage that makes it happy. I'm working on it though but it wasn't having it the last time. I'll try again at it on Monday or Tuesday as a cold front is coming through and that means mother nature will be helping me out with the cooling. All I know is with a 15 the thing crashed a minute into p95 and 1 pass of IBT yet with 14.5 at the same settings it made 4 hours p95 (I know it's not enough) and 11 passes of IBT. Maybe I'll get lucky this time around. Anyway does anyone know if the BSOD codes from the main forum are useful for AMD? They seemed Intel only orientated.

Not really, they usually give you a general idea of what the problem may be but specific issue-wise, they're kinda borked.

Have you tried booting the system with the volts set to 1.4-1.45? What cooler are you using?
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Not really, they usually give you a general idea of what the problem may be but specific issue-wise, they're kinda borked.
Have you tried booting the system with the volts set to 1.4-1.45? What cooler are you using?

I'm rocking a Hyper 212. I can boot at 1.45 but the thing I know isn't stable at that vcore(though I was below 1.3 for VDDNB at that time). I'll see though if leaving the VDDNB up around 1.31/1.32 helps with that. Right now I'm 1.48 vcore and 1.31 VDDNB to get (250x14.5) 3.6 and 2.5NB but I haven't gone for a full 8hrs P95 since the I'm waiting for it to get cooler around here to rule out unrealistic overheating as the problem(P95+ 80F ambients is insane). I had to loosen the RAM timings (I bought XMP RAM so stupid me) from the XMP 9-9-9-25 to 11-11-11-31 for the current settings to work out without giving me that familiar unstable feeling(where things act obviously strange).

I've tried with ACC on and at 0% it feels different...like single programs act fast why multiple programs loading things act slower than with it off. IDK. No one has answered me on it so I thought I'd tinker with it but I just don't know enough about it to see if it's helped any.

So right now I'm at:
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11-11-11-30-41 for 1666MHz RAM at 1.51 volts (I thought a touch more volts wouldn't hurt)
So I've just been trying to iron out this Athlon II 640 to hold me over. I didn't expect 4GHz but I didn't think it would be so hard for another speed.
     
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I'm rocking a Hyper 212. I can boot at 1.45 but the thing I know isn't stable at that vcore(though I was below 1.3 for VDDNB at that time). I'll see though if leaving the VDDNB up around 1.31/1.32 helps with that. Right now I'm 1.48 vcore and 1.31 VDDNB to get (250x14.5) 3.6 and 2.5NB but I haven't gone for a full 8hrs P95 since the I'm waiting for it to get cooler around here to rule out unrealistic overheating as the problem(P95+ 80F ambients is insane). I had to loosen the RAM timings (I bought XMP RAM so stupid me) from the XMP 9-9-9-25 to 11-11-11-31 for the current settings to work out without giving me that familiar unstable feeling(where things act obviously strange).
I've tried with ACC on and at 0% it feels different...like single programs act fast why multiple programs loading things act slower than with it off. IDK. No one has answered me on it so I thought I'd tinker with it but I just don't know enough about it to see if it's helped any.
So right now I'm at:
1.48 core voltage
1.31 VDDNB
(250x14.5) CPU
2.5GHz NB
11-11-11-30-41 for 1666MHz RAM at 1.51 volts (I thought a touch more volts wouldn't hurt)
So I've just been trying to iron out this Athlon II 640 to hold me over. I didn't expect 4GHz but I didn't think it would be so hard for another speed.

With ACC on, it's supposed to be at 0% (you really won't see a difference really, though i'm not too familiar with ACC either). 1.48v is insanely high for 3.6 Ghz (My Phenom boots @ 3.95 Ghz and stable with the volts set to 1.4v). Have you tried reducing the multi and raising the FSB? That usually helps in a more stable OC. Also, lower the RAM clocks as you raise the FSB so you don't hit a wall. After you achieve the highest stable OC on the processor, then slowly raise the RAM frequency.
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With ACC on, it's supposed to be at 0% (you really won't see a difference really, though i'm not too familiar with ACC either). 1.48v is insanely high for 3.6 Ghz (My Phenom boots @ 3.95 Ghz and stable with the volts set to 1.4v). Have you tried reducing the multi and raising the FSB? That usually helps in a more stable OC. Also, lower the RAM clocks as you raise the FSB so you don't hit a wall. After you achieve the highest stable OC on the processor, then slowly raise the RAM frequency.

My Athlon wouldn't boot the last time I tried 4GHz but I'm not sure I had worked out the HT and RAM dividers (they're messed up on this board). I'm working on the 3.75 at 1.48 right now but I'm nervous. I'll try right now seeing what can get 4GHz booting with HT and NB and RAM stock but I'm not expecting anything. The RAM is probably going to be the hard part with that. Should I drop the VDDNB down to auto since the multiplier will be to get the NB speed at 2000? I'm looking at 286x14 for the CPU as this will make the divider setting easier.
     
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My Athlon wouldn't boot the last time I tried 4GHz but I'm not sure I had worked out the HT and RAM dividers (they're messed up on this board). I'm working on the 3.75 at 1.48 right now but I'm nervous. I'll try right now seeing what can get 4GHz booting with HT and NB and RAM stock but I'm not expecting anything. The RAM is probably going to be the hard part with that. Should I drop the VDDNB down to auto since the multiplier will be to get the NB speed at 2000? I'm looking at 286x14 for the CPU as this will make the divider setting easier.

Setting it to auto would just add unnecessary volts to the NB, even on stock. Manually manage the voltage. Yeah, make sure you keep the HT link as low as possible (the lower the better). Really shouldn't expect 4 Ghz from the chip without some serious voltage tweaking biggrin.gif
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Setting it to auto would just add unnecessary volts to the NB, even on stock. Manually manage the voltage. Yeah, make sure you keep the HT link as low as possible (the lower the better). Really shouldn't expect 4 Ghz from the chip without some serious voltage tweaking biggrin.gif

Alright. 1.48 core got me a BSOD 124 with 3.75GHz running 3dMark Vantage. For the sake a curiosity I'm just going to screw around and see what happens at 1.45. I've left VDDNB at 1.31 but I'm not sure whether I should raise it or lower it. I knew propus wasn't going to be great but I'm just wanting 3.75 and 2.5NB

On a side note I did get further into windows with the 4GHz attempt this time before the BSOD with that but I'm pretty sure I'd have to hit 1.55 and 1.35 for that speed to work out.
     
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
N450 1.8GHz AC and 1.66GHz batt ASUS proprietary for 1001P GMA3150 (can play bluray now!?) 1GB DDR2 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSOS
160GB LGLHDLBDRE32X Bodhi Linux Fedora LXDE 
OSOSMonitorKeyboard
Kubuntu SLAX 1280x600 + Dell 15inch Excellent! 
PowerCase
6 cells=6-12hrs and a charger 1001P MU17 Black 
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CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
Intel Core m3-6Y30 Intel HD515 8GB 1866DDR3L Micron M600 MTFDDAV256MBF M.2, 256 GB 
CoolingOSOSMonitor
Fanless Win10 Home x64 Kubuntu 16.04 (requires Linux kernel 4.5/4.6) 13.3 inch 16:9, 1920x1080 pixel, AU Optronics A... 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AthlonIIX4 640 3.62GHz (250x14.5) 2.5GHz NB Asus M4A785TD-M EVO MSI GTX275 (Stock 666) 8GBs of GSkill 1600 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
4GBs of Adata 1333 Kingston HyperX 3k 120GB WD Caviar Black 500GB Hitachi Deskstar 1TB 
Optical DriveCoolingOSOS
LG 8X BDR (WHL08S20) Cooler Master Hyper 212+ Kubuntu x64 Windows 7 x64 
OSMonitorPowerCase
Bodhi Linux x64 Acer G215H (1920x1080) Seasonic 520 HAF912 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
N450 1.8GHz AC and 1.66GHz batt ASUS proprietary for 1001P GMA3150 (can play bluray now!?) 1GB DDR2 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSOS
160GB LGLHDLBDRE32X Bodhi Linux Fedora LXDE 
OSOSMonitorKeyboard
Kubuntu SLAX 1280x600 + Dell 15inch Excellent! 
PowerCase
6 cells=6-12hrs and a charger 1001P MU17 Black 
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