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Alright. 1.48 core got me a BSOD 124 with 3.75GHz running 3dMark Vantage. For the sake a curiosity I'm just going to screw around and see what happens at 1.45. I've left VDDNB at 1.31 but I'm not sure whether I should raise it or lower it. I knew propus wasn't going to be great but I'm just wanting 3.75 and 2.5NB
On a side note I did get further into windows with the 4GHz attempt this time before the BSOD with that but I'm pretty sure I'd have to hit 1.55 and 1.35 for that speed to work out.

Pushing beyond 1.52v really isn't advisable on air. Besides, you really won't see a game-changing difference between 3.75 and 4 Ghz biggrin.gif. Try pushing close to 1.5v on the NB.

Let us know how it works out.
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Pushing beyond 1.52v really isn't advisable on air. Besides, you really won't see a game-changing difference between 3.75 and 4 Ghz biggrin.gif. Try pushing close to 1.5v on the NB.
Let us know how it works out.

What do you suggest? 1.5 vcore and 1.5VDDNB(it's not the same as NB from my understanding so I'm not happy with anything above 1.35) or 1.45 core and 1.5VDDNB? I'm currently about to test 1.49core and 1.318VDDNB. 3.75 is really tough.

PS: Is it strange that my idle and "load" temps haven't increased more than 1-3C?

EDIT: Crash in the CPU part of 3dmarkVantage with the same 124 BSOD. About to test 1.5vcore and 1.325VDDNB.
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Alright going for broke now:
1.5vcore and 1.35VDDNB. I'll be sad if this stupid 15 multiplier still doesn't work. mad.gif

UPDATE: GAH! at 1.52 and 1.36 now. Damn 15 multiplier why must you be so hard?

PS: If anyone has suggestions I'd welcome them.
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Alright going for broke now:
1.5vcore and 1.35VDDNB. I'll be sad if this stupid 15 multiplier still doesn't work. mad.gif
UPDATE: GAH! at 1.52 and 1.36 now. Damn 15 multiplier why must you be so hard?
PS: If anyone has suggestions I'd welcome them.

Well I finally got past 3DMarkVantage with (250x15) but it took 1.52vcore and dropping the NB to 2GHz and 1.232VDDNB. I'm not sure that it's 100% but it's a starting point finally. I guess the Athlons got a cheaper IMC than the Phenoms. I'm hoping I luck out though with the 3.75GHz.
     
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Well I finally got past 3DMarkVantage with (250x15) but it took 1.52vcore and dropping the NB to 2GHz and 1.232VDDNB. I'm not sure that it's 100% but it's a starting point finally. I guess the Athlons got a cheaper IMC than the Phenoms. I'm hoping I luck out though with the 3.75GHz.

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Gah. Turned on ACC for the hell of it and dropped points in Vantage. Strangely my ping was better in my games. Went from 12023 to 11937 for 3.75 and 2GHZ NB. Not sure it made much of a difference but my best 3.6 with 2.5GHz NB run was 11887. Not sure running 1.52vcore is worth it compared to 1.48.

Do you think running a higher reference clock with a lower multiplier might work out better?
     
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Will it work? Yes.

Will it not overclock well, overheat and possible fry something and or explode? Very possible if going for a good overclock.

I would suggest a higher ref and lower multiplier overclock, could be more stable and not require as much voltage and cooling.

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Alright going for broke now:
1.5vcore and 1.35VDDNB. I'll be sad if this stupid 15 multiplier still doesn't work. mad.gif
UPDATE: GAH! at 1.52 and 1.36 now. Damn 15 multiplier why must you be so hard?
PS: If anyone has suggestions I'd welcome them.

I dont see anything about your cooling anywhere, but a proper set up for decent heat dissipation 1.55v is pretty acceptable for an extreme 24/7 overclock.

Though the power draw and still low performance of it inst really worth it, and the price of an OP water loop with to cool all that heat like no tomorrow.

Once you pass 3.5-6ghz the voltage needed for stability is really exponential and not at all worth it without being able to maintain it. But the real world performance scales nicely.

But then again, that's a mid range sub par budget board that will probably degrade very fast and has a high chance of blowing up (msi exclusive!) and taking something else out with it.
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I dont see anything about your cooling anywhere, but a proper set up for decent heat dissipation 1.55v is pretty acceptable for an extreme 24/7 overclock.
Though the power draw and still low performance of it inst really worth it, and the price of an OP water loop with to cool all that heat like no tomorrow.
Once you pass 3.5-6ghz the voltage needed for stability is really exponential and not at all worth it without being able to maintain it. But the real world performance scales nicely.
But then again, that's a mid range sub par budget board that will probably degrade very fast and has a high chance of blowing up (msi exclusive!) and taking something else out with it.

I'm not sure where you're saying my board is an MSI...it's an ASUS and it's in the first post. I'll trust Xd's word on what it can do. But you do seem to be right about the past 3.6 issue. Even at 1.52 I couldn't get 3.75(250x15) stable. I'm sure that 1.55 would have probably done it but for just 100MHz more I can't see doing +.1volts for it. I'll see if my hunch is correct later this week but I think my 3.625GHz (250x14.5) CPU at 1.48 and 2.5GHz NB at 1.32 VDDNB might be the last "point of reason" with what this CPU can do. I guess for 100USD I shouldn't have expected that much out of it. I just wish I had lucked out like some people and found a Deneb in disguise.
     
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I'm not sure where you're saying my board is an MSI...it's an ASUS and it's in the first post. I'll trust Xd's word on what it can do. But you do seem to be right about the past 3.6 issue. Even at 1.52 I couldn't get 3.75(250x15) stable. I'm sure that 1.55 would have probably done it but for just 100MHz more I can't see doing +.1volts for it. I'll see if my hunch is correct later this week but I think my 3.625GHz (250x14.5) CPU at 1.48 and 2.5GHz NB at 1.32 VDDNB might be the last "point of reason" with what this CPU can do. I guess for 100USD I shouldn't have expected that much out of it. I just wish I had lucked out like some people and found a Deneb in disguise.

sorry i meant msi boards come with an extra feature where if you OC too much the motherboard catches on fire.
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