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im looking forward to watercool Two of those beasty new card smile.gif
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Nvidia GPUs coming after months after AMD, what a surprise rolleyes.gif

You do realise that the GTX580 came out a full month before the HD6900 series right? rolleyes.gif

OT: Can't wait for Kepler, should be an absolute beast in the high-end market. AMD might know how to make bang for buck cards, but Nvidia are the kings of single GPU performance. All I hope is that the dual GPU Kepler doesn't go down the same path as the GTX590 and have corners cut just to save a few bucks. Please Nvidia, make your dual GPU card right this time!

Bit sad to see the release still ~6 months away but I'd rather wait an extra month or two for some truly awesome performing cards than get a die shrink of a previous gen card now. Yes AMD, I'm looking at you. I know AMD will be releasing truly new 28nm chips around Feb/March but I think their first few iterations are going to be essentially HD6950/6970 die shrinks?

We all remember how Fermi turned out, well worth the 6 months wait right?rolleyes.gif

I don't really see the point waiting, AMD will have a single-GPU card out fairly soon, which matches/beats a GTX590/6990, and has OC headroom.
 
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I just hope this time NVIDIA's GPU's will use 3GB, not 1.5GB this time.
    
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Don't look at the chart in terms of performance but more in terms of price. We don't know the performance levels of these cards yet. All we know is where Nvidia's partners (the sources of this info) expect for them to line-up in the market based on early talks with Nvidia. So if we assume a Gk 104 performs the same as a 580, we also know it'll be a smaller GPU and cost quite a bit less for the same performance. That said, I'm sure the Gk 104 will probably beat a 580 by a decent margin while selling at an upper mainstream price point.

If I were to guess, I'd say Gk 104 will perform about 20-30% better than a 580 but sell for between $300 and $350. The Gk 110 will probably be between $500-$550 and the Gk 112 will be one of the largest GPUs ever made, perform better than a Gk 110 and 7990 and cost around $650. I fear by the time the 112 is out, we'll be less than a quarter away from seeing AMD's Southern Islands refresh.

AMD has been doing very well in the mainstream and performance markets since they went with their strategy of targeting mainstream designs and scaling up. I believe Nvidia has been wanting to emulate that strategy for awhile now because that really is the heart of the overall market, but given the lead time on GPU design, it's taken them awhile to get to this position. As was mentioned above, they still pride themselves on the best single GPU performance in the market and that's why I believe they're also designing a high-end "Monster" GPU to continue that reputation. The thinking there is having the dominant GPU in the market positively influences customer opinion of the company's overall quality so they're more likely to lean Nvidia when purchasing lower tier products. Imagine if Ferrari made $30k mid-size sedans. While the market there is competitive, wouldn't you as a consumer lean towards that car over a Toyota because you know Ferrari as a company has amazing engineering so you assume there's a trickle down effect and it's a superior product. Same kind of thinking in the GPU market.
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post #25 of 43
I'm sorry Nvidia I don't have the patience to wait for you, I'll have to go AMD. That's if they're any good of course.
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post #26 of 43
Excellent find Johnny. +rep
This is the first thread that really helps to define the Nvidia road-map and milestones.
Based on the text of the article it appears that Nvidia is at least 3-6 months behind AMD.
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GK112 has 512bit GDDR5.
Oh mah gawd.
I think ill have to turn green for the next generation!

do you not realize that XDR2 offers twice the bandwidth clock for clock vs. GDDR5? nVidia will need a 512bit bus just to compete with a 256bit XDR2 Radeon if they're still planning to use GDDR5. Granted the recent rumors of AMD going with a 384bit bus has lead me to believe that XDR2 might be behind schedule and that they're also sticking with GDDR5. But if AMD is using XDR2 and 384 bit then 512bit with GDDR5 really shouldn't be praised as anything impressive.
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Can't wait. Selling my 580 before I go to Europe for a semester this spring. Coming back to buy the best card available, whether its AMD or NVidia, time will tell.
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uummm will there be any MAJOR differences between DX11 and DX11.1?
and will the current DX11 cards support DX11.1?
     
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post #30 of 43
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Amik Vase View Post

GK112 has 512bit GDDR5.
Oh mah gawd.
I think ill have to turn green for the next generation!

Hmm, people said the same thing when they heard r600 would have 512-bit GDDR4.
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